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(05-18-2016, 12:52 AM)taramarie Wrote: So a liberal is a category and socialist or progressive would be considered a sub category within being a liberal. I get it now. I always thought a liberal was something different again.
Its more like a deliberate deception to get what they wanted which was power. For example FDR ran as a fiscal conservative and then gave us the New Deal which was simply more of Hoover's intervention. After a few decades the name stuck to the wrong people. The average person doesn't make any distinction and at this stage it doesn't really matter.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
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(05-18-2016, 01:05 AM)taramarie Wrote: (05-18-2016, 01:01 AM)Dan Wrote: (05-18-2016, 12:52 AM)taramarie Wrote: (05-18-2016, 12:43 AM)Galen Wrote: (05-18-2016, 12:38 AM)taramarie Wrote: Ah I see. Yes we use that term.
Though that you might. The modern liberals in the US are either a socialists or progressives but they stole the brand.
Oh I see. I have heard of all these terms and had an idea of what they meant. But as an outsider I do not use these terms here in my own country. No one does in NZ. Those terms are American. I was not aware a liberal could be either a socialist or progressive. So a liberal is a category and socialist or progressive would be considered a sub category within being a liberal. I get it now. I always thought a liberal was something different again.
Tara, I think the party that Roger Douglas founded after Labor booted him is basic basically a libertarian party.
You mean the ACT Party? I do not go with them as they tend to side with National and they have sort of blended in with them. Just as bad as our right wingers who are making things harder on the average kiwi as of late. NZ First however is a mix of both worlds (left and right) which tends to piss off both to my delight naturally!
I don't know the name, and I'm too busy editing the board to look it up.
BTW I added a NZ flag smilie for you.
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No, it is the ghosts of 1860, not 1968, that haunt this election - and it will be 1860 on an even higher plane if the Reform Party nominates someone worth voting for, since that would make this a five-way screaming match instead of "only" four.
"These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation" - Justice David Brewer, Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 1892
