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** 17-Jun-2021 World View: Democrat Party trolls

Bob Butler" Wrote:> A cop shot a criminal in the process of committing a
> crime. Another cop was assaulted with bear spray, which is not
> authorized for use on humans, as if assaulting cops doing their
> job is ok. This clearly indicates John and other members of this
> site are against rule of law?

This is why it's a waste of time to talk to you and other Democrats.
You are totally ignorant about anything going on, because your
Democrat masters heavily censor the news that you're allowed to know
about.

A couple of months ago, I mentioned the southern border crisis, and
you said that it was "imaginary." You had no idea what was going on,
so you lied. Today you would probably like to claim you never said
that, which is why I say that people like you lie about what's going
on, and then lie about your lies.

The real farce was Mayorkas who claimed every day that "the border is
closed," while Fox News was showing clip after clip of people pouring
across the border. Mayorkas is typical of Democrats, most of whom are
total assholes.

So now you're claiming that a capitol cop was assaulted by bear spray.
That's a lie that the Democrats pushed for months, until an April
court session when the Democrats had to admit that bear spray was
never used, and that officer Brian Sicknick had died of natural causes
a day later, after suffering two strokes.

That's the problem. The Democrats are all jackasses who lie about
what happens and then lie about their lies, so that you can be a
worthless troll and lie along with them.
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Next, you claim that "a cop shot a criminal in the process of
committing a crime." Really, how do you know that? You simply made
that up and lied about it, just like every jackass Democrat.

No one, not even the capitol police, has accused Ashli Babbitt of
having committed any crime whatsoever, except of course the "crime" of
being a Trump supporter, which I guess is enough for you to say that
she deserved to be shot dead.

All we know is that Ashli Babbitt was a veteran and she was unarmed
and peacefully protesting. She was inside the Capitol building
because the Capitol police had opened the doors and invited many of
the protesters to come in. This is standard. It is not a crime to be
inside the Capitol building.

The Capitol police are stonewalling what happened. They're refusing
to release the name of the Capitol officer who shot her dead. They're
refusing to release any details of what happened. They are known to
have video of what happened, but they're refusing to release that.
The obvious implication is that the Democrats are responsible.

But none of that bothers you. You're completely ignorant of anything
that's going on. What you "want" is for the murder of Ashli Babbitt
to be justified, so you make up "facts" and lie about them. Later,
you'll change your mind and lie about your lies.

Like all other jackass Democrats, you're just a worthless troll.
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** 17-Jun-2021 World View: The murder of Ashli Babbit

(06-16-2021, 08:19 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: > ... The only person killed on January 6 was Ashli Babbitt, by a
> capitol policeman, a murder that the Democrats are covering up.
> But the leftist trolls will never correct...

(06-17-2021, 08:31 AM)David Horn Wrote: > Setting aside the obvious point, let me make another. You are in
> your home and a screaming mob descends on your house and beats a
> hole through the door. The mob decides to enter your home, and
> the first person in the mob begins to climb in. Are you adequately
> threatened to use deadly force to defend yourself and your family?
> If not, why not?

See my answer to Butler above. You don't have the vaguest clue
what's going on, because all you know is the heavily censored
information that the Democrats and their trolls want you to know.
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** 17-Jun-2021 World View: The White Supremacist-In-Chief

(06-17-2021, 08:52 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > Putin is ex-KGB. "Are you still lynching negroes?"

Oh, did Putin really ask that question? Well, good for him, because
it's true.

The Democrats are lynching hundreds of negroes every weekend in
Chicago, Baltimore, and other Democrat-run cities.

A century ago, Democrats like yourself were happily cheering the Tulsa
massacre and other massacres and lynchings of blacks.

Today, Democrats are happily cheering massacres of blacks in
Democrat-run cities. This is intentional Democrat Party policy, the
intended outcome from defunding police, not arresting violent
criminals, letting violent criminals out of jail, keeping the police
from making gun checks, and so forth. These are Democrat Party
policies with the intention of effectively restoring the KKK, with its
mass slaughter and lynchings through gunfire.

Joe Biden, of course, and his beloved mentor Robert Byrd, were
cheering about these slaughters and lynchings when he was young.
Biden is on the record making extremely hate-filled racist remarks as
late as 2007, just before Obama nominated him as vice-president. And
with the recent release of Hunter's hate-filled racist tweets, we know
that Joe Biden is the "White Supremacist in Chief in America," ready
to adopt any new policy that will speed up the lynchings and rapes of
blacks.

So, kudos to Putin for asking the right question.
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(06-17-2021, 11:55 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 17-Jun-2021 World View: The murder of Ashli Babbit

(06-16-2021, 08:19 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ...  The only person killed on January 6 was Ashli Babbitt, by a capitol policeman, a murder that the Democrats are covering up.  But the leftist trolls will never correct...

(06-17-2021, 08:31 AM)David Horn Wrote: Setting aside the obvious point, let me make another.  You are in your home and a screaming mob descends on your house and beats a hole through the door.  The mob decides to enter your home, and the first person in the mob begins to climb in. Are you adequately threatened to use deadly force to defend yourself and your family?  If not, why not?  

See my answer to Butler above.  You don't have the vaguest clue what's going on, because all you know is the heavily censored information that the Democrats and their trolls want you to know.

John, we all saw the video in real time. Exactly who is being duped here?
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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** 18-Jun-2021 World View: Insurrection

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  • Antifa-blm fascist violence in Portland, Oregon, 17-July-2020


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  • Trump supporters' "insurrection," 6-Jan-2021
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(06-18-2021, 09:28 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 18-Jun-2021 World View: Insurrection

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  • Antifa-blm fascist violence in Portland, Oregon, 17-July-2020

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  • Trump supporters' "insurrection," 6-Jan-2021

Except that the political system was far better prepared for it, this behavior is far more similar to the Bolsheviks storming the Winter Palace than any BLM or Antifa activity.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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** 18-Jun-2021 World View: Is this the big one?

This morning, Federal Reserve official James Bullard said that
inflation may be higher than expected, and the Fed may have to raise
interest rates at the end of 2022.

Investors freaked out.

Dow 30 33,290.08 -533.37(-1.58%)
S&P 500 4,166.45 -55.41(-1.31%)
Nasdaq 14,030.38 -130.97(-0.92%)

One analyst said that leverage has been a "moon shot" in the last six
months, meaning that investors have been borrowing heavily to invest
in stocks. This is what triggers a crash. If stock prices start
falling, and people have to start selling stocks heavily to meet
margin calls, then there's a vicious cycle that causes stock prices to
spiral down. That's exactly what happened in 1929.

I vaguely recall that in 2007-2008, the Fed would hold an emergency
session over the weekend, and bail out some bank on Sunday evening,
just before the Asian stock markets open. I wonder if that will
happen this weekend.


** US STOCKS-Wall Street ends sharply lower after hawkish Bullard spooks investors
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-stoc...SL2N2O022L
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It's called volatility.

Interest rates have recently been ridiculously low -- so low that people have little incentive for saving. People are in The Market who should not be, many of them investing in stocks because bonds, life insurance, and bank CD's pay too little. It's the little guys' savings that to a large extent get lent to Big Business for industrial expansion -- job-creating plan t and equipment.

Volatility is a hallmark of stock markets at the end of a run of rising valuations.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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** 18-Jun-2021 World View: The Nazis

(06-18-2021, 10:33 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > Except that the political system was far better prepared for it,
> this behavior is far more similar to the Bolsheviks storming the
> Winter Palace than any BLM or Antifa activity.

Lol!! Why stop there? Why not go all the way, and say that the Jan 6
"insurrection" was worse than the Nazi invasion of Russia?
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(06-18-2021, 06:52 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 18-Jun-2021 World View: The Nazis

(06-18-2021, 10:33 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: >   Except that the political system was far better prepared for it,
>   this behavior is far more similar to the Bolsheviks storming the
>   Winter Palace than any BLM or Antifa activity.

Lol!!  Why stop there?  Why not go all the way, and say that the Jan 6
"insurrection" was worse than the Nazi invasion of Russia?

Non sequitur.

The plot demonstrates that (1) many people are right-wing authoritarians whose loyalty to democratic principles of republican governance are shaky at best, and (2) the ultimate futility of any mass uprising against the lawful government of the United States. 

Remember that during the insurrection the Joint Chiefs of Staff made clear that Joe Biden was duly elected to become President and would be recognized as such. 

OK, what does the official newspaper of the US Armed Forces have to say about the shady events of Jamuary 6?


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By CAITLIN M. KENNEY | STARS AND STRIPESPublished: January 12, 2021


WASHINGTON — The senior officers of the Joint Chiefs of Staff condemned the deadly riot at the Capitol last week, saying it was a “direct assault” on the constitutional process and illegal, according to a memo sent to the entire military.
“We witnessed actions inside the Capitol building that were inconsistent with the rule of law. The rights of freedom of speech and assembly do not give anyone the right to resort to violence, sedition and insurrection,” according to the one-page undated memorandum.


The document, signed by all eight members of Joint Chiefs of Staff including its chairman, Army Gen. Mark Milley, reiterates to the force that the U.S. military will obey lawful orders from civilian leadership and “remains fully committed” to protecting and defending the Constitution.
“Any act to disrupt the constitutional process is not only against our traditions, values, and oath; it is against the law,” the memo reads.


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National veterans groups plan to purge members found guilty in Capitol attack


The FBI said Tuesday that it had opened more than 160 criminal cases as a result of the Capitol riot, and 70 people had been charged so far. The FBI is combing through more than 100,000 videos and other digital media of the attacks and is expecting hundreds of people to be identified and charged.
"Even if you left D.C., agents from our local field offices will be knocking on your door if we find out that you were part of the criminal activity at the Capitol," Steven D'Antuono, assistant director in charge of the FBI's field office in Washington, said Tuesday afternoon during a news conference.


The march on the Capitol on Jan. 6 by some supporters of President Donald Trump followed his speech that reiterated claims of a stolen election to the crowd at a rally outside the White House. A mob of supporters attacked police and broke into the Capitol building and vandalized it, and sent congressional lawmakers into lockdown. The riot delayed Congress from the official certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory, but lawmakers returned hours later and approved the election results.
The Joint Staff’s memo stated Biden will be the next president and commander in chief.



(bolding mine)

“On January 20, 2021, in accordance with the Constitution, confirmed by the states and the courts, and certified by Congress, President-elect Biden will be inaugurated and will become our 46th commander in chief,” memo reads.
The House on Monday announced an article of impeachment against Trump for “incitement of insurrection” with his false claims about the election results and making statements Jan. 6 before a crowd that “in context, encouraged—and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol,” according to the bill.


Representatives will be begin debating the bill Wednesday, just one week after the riot.


Stars and Stripes staff writer Nikki Wentling contributed to this story.
kenney.caitlin@stripes.com
Twitter: @caitlinmkenney


https://www.stripes.com/news/us/joint-chiefs-of-staff-condemn-riot-at-capitol-and-affirm-biden-s-election-win-1.658299

I'd say that that is as clear and definitive as one can get.   
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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*** 20-Jun-21 World View -- North Korea in crisis, facing 'tense' food shortage and surging food prices

This morning's key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com
  • North Korea in crisis, facing 'tense' food shortage and surging food prices
  • Kim Jong-un 'solemnly vows' to overcome difficulties
  • The Denuclearization Delusion
  • Happy Juneteenth, everyone!


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**** North Korea in crisis, facing 'tense' food shortage and surging food prices
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Kim Jong-un last week announcing the 'tense' food shortage (Reuters)

North Korean dictator last week said that "The people's food situation
is now getting tense," referring to scarcity of food and sharply
rising food prices He added that the "agricultural sector failed to
fulfil its grain production plan" in 2020.

A massive shortage of food has led to a dramatic rise in prices of
basic food commodities. A kilogram of bananas costs $45. The price
of a kilogram of rice was $0.77 in April, $0.90 in May, and $0.96 in
June.

North Korea is subject to both UN and US sanctions, but normally North
Korea's agricultural sector can produce enough food, and receive
supplements from China and Russia. However, this failed to be enough
during 2020 for three reasons:
  • The US and UN sanctions continued.

  • North Korea, which has been claiming that thre are no cases of
    Covid in the country, closed their borders with China and Russia to
    prevent the spread of Covid. However, there have been reports of
    widespread Covid in some parts of the country, especially near the
    border with China. Normally, North Korea depends on China for food,
    fertilizers and fuel, but most of that trade was cut off.

  • Several unexpectedly large typhoons last year caused
    flooding.

The food shortage has not surprisingly led to violence in some areas.
According to reports, construction workers building houses in the
capital city Pyongyang, North Korea’s largest city with a population
of about 3 million, are poorly fed, and are committing robberies and
murders to steal food in the neighborhoods where the houses are being
built.

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**** Kim Jong-un 'solemnly vows' to overcome difficulties
****


At the conclusion of a Central Committee meeting on Friday, Kim
"solemnly swore that the Party will surely break through head-on the
difficulties lying in the way of the revolution" and remain loyal to
the revolutionary idea to the end regardless of the "severer
difficulties it may be confronted with in the future," according to
KCNA, the (North) Korean Central News Agency.

It's not clear how the North Koreans plan to do that, but there have
already been some missteps.

North Korea's state-run food stores normally sell just basic foods
like unprocessed corn and rice, but due to shortages are now selling
some processed foods like sugar, seasonings, flour and cooking oil.
However, stocks of those foods are extremely low as well.

A different concern was raised by a recent special "intensive
inspection of the storage maintenance status of combat reserve
supplies" for the armed forces. The inspection revealed shortages of
reserve supplies, and evidence of corruption, since the written
records do not match the actual supplies. According to an RFA report:

<QUOTE>"The main focus of this inspection is on supplies like
wartime fuel, food, combat suites and medicine. All units
typically lack fuel, food and medicine so they often secretly dip
into their reserves."<END QUOTE>


Managers responsible for the combat reserve supplies may now fact
punishment:

<QUOTE>"In addition to the punishment of those who are found
at fault in the military-wide intensive inspection, the project to
distribute combat reserve materials according to demand will also
be under review.

All units have been specifically asked whether they comply with
the directive that requires them to create combat reserve supplies
by contributing five percent of the daily supplies guaranteed by
the state and of military supplies they themselves
produce."<END QUOTE>


Obviously, this has implications for the ability of North Korea's army
to attack South Korea, when Kim Jong-un decides to do so.

****
**** The Denuclearization Delusion
****


We haven't heard much from North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un since
those exciting gone-by days of yesteryear prior to the Wuhan
Coronavirus (Covid-19) pandemic, when he was meeting regularly with
Donald Trump, and the two were expressing their love for one another,
in their father-son relationship. In particular, there haven't been
any new tests of nuclear weapons or long-range ballistic missiles in a
long time. There were some short-range missile tests in March of this
year, but they didn't generate much excitement.

President Joe Biden has not announced a North Korea policy, except for
"consulting with our allies and partners" and "some form of diplomacy
... conditioned upon the end result of denuclearization," as he said
after the North Korean missile test in March.

At that time, I wrote a lengthy article comparing the strategies of
Donald Trump and Joe Biden. (See "28-Mar-21 World View -- North Korea's ballistic missiles stoke the Denuclearization Delusion"
)

The point of the article was the same as in the articles about North
Korea that I've been writing for years -- that it makes absolutely no
difference what strategy is used by Trump and Biden. North Korea is
going to continue developing and manufacturing nuclear weapons and
long-range ballistic missiles, and one day will use them, probably on
Japan and the US. The idea of North Korea denuclearization is
completely delusionary, even though the "Denuclearization Delusion"
persists in the dream world of Pollyannaish fantasy.

In fact, Biden's special representative for North Korea, Sung Kim, was
in South Korea on Saturday to discuss the stalled denuclearization
talks. Kim Jong-un ordered his government to prepare for both
dialogue and confrontation with the United States. Kim is demanding
that the US lift its sanctions on North Korea.

****
**** Happy Juneteenth, everyone!
****


Saturday was the new federal holiday, Juneteenth, celebrating the day
June 19, 1865, when the Republicans, who had won the Civil War and
emancipated the slaves under Abraham Lincoln, officially completed the
emancipation by forcing the Democrats, who had finally surrendered
after losing the Civil War, to really give up their slaves and set
them free.

I can't help but think that this is an odd holiday for the Democrats
to be celebrating, since it's a day of their total humiliation and
surrender. Following the emancipation, the bitterly angry Democrats
formed the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) and spent the next century lynching
black boys and raping black girls with impunity.

This angers continues to today. Joe Biden grew up at the time when
the KKK was active, and his friend and mentor Robert Byrd held the
title "Exalted Cyclops." Biden and Byrd may have participated in some
lynchings or rapes, or if not were certainly aware of them and
approved of them. Biden was a racist and White Supremacist his entire
life, and was quite public abut it until Barack Obama nominated him to
be vice president. But with the recent release of Hunter Biden's
texts, which were laced with highly racist epithets, we know that
racism and White Supremacy are deeply embedded in the Biden family.

Maxine Waters, who has often appeared to be totally unhinged, must
have suffered some kind of trauma in the past. My guess is that
either she was raped as a young girl by a White Democrat in the KKK,
or if not, at the least she must have known many young black girls who
were raped. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who also seems to be
unhinged, was born too late to be raped by a KKK member, but
undoubtedly knew many black women who had been raped in years past.
Frankly, I don't blame Waters or Lightfoot for acting as they do,
given the trauma they must have suffered decades ago, surrounded by
black girls and women who had been raped by White Democrats.

Lori Lightfoot's Chicago is a good example of how the Democrats are
causing massacres of blacks today, just as though the KKK were as
active as before. Lightfoot and other Democrat politicians have
adopted a set of racist policies that specifically target black
communities, making them unsafe and punishing successful black
businesses. These policies include the following: destroying the
black family, defunding police, not arresting violent criminals,
letting violent criminals out of jail, keeping the police from making
gun checks, forbidding community policing, and allowing huge amounts
of fentynal and meth into the country through the southern border. Of
course whites also suffer from these policies, but not nearly as much
as blacks do. These policies all target blacks and have the specific
purpose of making black neighborhoods unsafe and poor. These are all
White Supremacist policies, and any Democrat who follows them is, by
definition, a White Supremacist.

The results speak for themselves: Hundreds of blacks are killed each
week through mass shootings on the streets of Chicago and other
Democrat-run cities, where the above racist policies are in force.
These have the same purpose as the 1921 Tulsa massacre of a century
ago. It's as if the KKK were still as active as ever in the mass
slaughter of blacks.

So now we come to the new Juneteenth federal holiday, which celebrates
the Democrat Party's loss of their black slaves, and also commemorates
the Democrat Party's launching of the KKK. I find it bewildering that
the Democrats allowed this holiday to be celebrated, and I can't help
but wonder if this is actually the beginning of a social war by the
blacks against their white masters.

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Juneteenth sounds so retarded. I understand the slaves, using African languages and having limited knowledge of English at the time, did not understand the phrase "June Nineteenth". "Emancipation Day" or "Black Independence Day" would be better names.
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(06-21-2021, 04:54 AM)Captain Genet Wrote: Juneteenth sounds so retarded. I understand the slaves, using African languages and having limited knowledge of English at the time, did not understand the phrase "June Nineteenth". "Emancipation Day" or "Black Independence Day" would be better names.

Slaves didn't have calendars and watches. By 1865 slaves were almost always monolingual speakers of English. Early slave-owners punished slaves for using any African language or performing any music of undoubted African origin. Such musical instruments as drums were out of the question. Obviously their formal learning was severely limited; whatever inefficiency came from slave illiteracy more than made up for the reduced likelihood of slaves escaping. 

Freedmen knew that enterprise, thrift, vocational skill, and formal learning were all means of power, and for a while Reconstruction was great progress for blacks who had recently been slaves. Some fellows who liked to dress up like ghosts did what they could to put an end to that.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(06-21-2021, 04:54 AM)Captain Genet Wrote: Juneteenth sounds so retarded. I understand the slaves, using African languages and having limited knowledge of English at the time, did not understand the phrase "June Nineteenth". "Emancipation Day" or "Black Independence Day" would be better names.

Relax.  It's just slang in its purest form. Plus, it seems to have held, so it can't be bad in that sense.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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(06-17-2021, 11:54 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 17-Jun-2021 World View: Democrat Party trolls

Bob Butler Wrote:>   A cop shot a criminal in the process of committing a
>   crime. Another cop was assaulted with bear spray, which is not
>   authorized for use on humans, as if assaulting cops doing their
>   job is ok. This clearly indicates John and other members of this
>   site are against rule of law?

This is why it's a waste of time to talk to you and other Democrats.
You are totally ignorant about anything going on, because your
Democrat masters heavily censor the news that you're allowed to know
about.

A couple of months ago, I mentioned the southern border crisis, and
you said that it was "imaginary."  You had no idea what was going on,
so you lied.  Today you would probably like to claim you never said
that, which is why I say that people like you lie about what's going
on, and then lie about your lies.

The real farce was Mayorkas who claimed every day that "the border is
closed," while Fox News was showing clip after clip of people pouring
across the border.  Mayorkas is typical of Democrats, most of whom are
total assholes.

FoX News Channel has an agenda, the support of one particular view of how America is to be structured economically and politically. In essence, those who own and manage the assets that underpin America are to get their way in politics and in cultural norms so that America can best reward those elites in the name of maximal prosperity, which itself implies maximal inequality and the suppression of any ideological or cultural positions that challenge the domination of those elites. Labor-management relations are to return to those of the Gilded Era or at least those of the 1920's, when sweatshop conditions were the norm for industrial workers. 

FoX News is as manipulative as Pravda was in its heyday, although on behalf of the classes that Marx and Lenin excoriated. Marx saw inequality of ownership as the cornerstone of economic inequality but ignored that those wielding control even of publicly-owned assets could themselves be severe exploiters as could medieval aristocrats who structured power upon the ownership of agricultural land. If bourgeois capitalists had to share power with a rural aristocracy in early-modern days, the plutocratic principle still applied in such a country as Prussia and later the Second German Reich. Such modern liberal democracy could exist only where there was a conflict between agrarian and industrial interests.  

In any event, FoX News has its techniques. One is to loop images of disgusting behavior from people on the Other Side short of public defecation (which remains a taboo even for FoX News)  as a demonstration of the pervasiveness of bad behavior on the Other Side. (OK, at least we liberals have never formed an ideological monolith and do not all act alike. Some of us are quite bourgeois in style. Another is to use camera tricks to make those that it presents as disgusting even uglier. It loves to show fires. FoX News manipulates its viewers to get angry.      


Quote:So now you're claiming that a capitol cop was assaulted by bear spray.
That's a lie that the Democrats pushed for months, until an April
court session when the Democrats had to admit that bear spray was
never used, and that officer Brian Sicknick had died of natural causes
a day later, after suffering two strokes.

Illicit assault a police officer of any kind is a criminal act. For decades the Capitol police had the plum job of formally guarding a place in which people generally behaved well. It is theoretically possible that someone will physically attack a member of Congress or Congressional staff  or wander far from a Congressional tour.  It is easy for the Capitol Police to swarm someone who shouts some vile language. That sort of policing is more deterrence than the search-and-destroy (or arrest) missions that other police might do against a bank robber, rapist, or dope peddler.  

Capitol Police were not accustomed to violent attacks. They are not designed to withstand an attempted seizure of the Capitol, something long considered unthinkable. So it wasn't bear spray? Under the extreme stress it is easy to misdiagnose the agents of chemical assault when one experiences them after never having encountered them. If it wasn't bear spray, it might have been "dog spray". So what! Use of a chemical spray on someone is literal assault, justifiable only in self defense. Use it against a dog or a cat without justification and you might have a cruelty-to-animal charge added to other criminal offenses in sentencing.  

So someone who experiences a chemical spray can't tell whether it is Mace, pepper spray, or something else. That's usually a once-in-a-lifetime experience and even at that a rarity.  How does someone know what he experienced? That is perhaps for a medical professional to establish, and perhaps for an evidence lab to determine.      


Quote:That's the problem.  The Democrats are all jackasses who lie about
what happens and then lie about their lies, so that you can be a
worthless troll and lie along with them.

When we are wrong we backtrack. Eyewitness accounts are often unreliable, especially when someone is in deep distress while an event unfolds. 


Quote:Next, you claim that "a cop shot a criminal in the process of
committing a crime."  Really, how do you know that?  You simply made
that up and lied about it, just like every jackass Democrat.

No one, not even the capitol police, has accused Ashli Babbitt of
having committed any crime whatsoever, except of course the "crime" of
being a Trump supporter, which I guess is enough for you to say that
she deserved to be shot dead.

One offense is literal burglary, which means getting into an enclosed space through illicit entry. Ashli Babbitt was literally committing burglary. Shots were fired, and one hit her. Why she and not someone else was mortally wounded is pure chance. 

You saw video of the storming of the Capitol. Did that look like normal behavior in American politics?   


Quote:All we know is that Ashli Babbitt was a veteran and she was unarmed
and peacefully protesting.  She was inside the Capitol building
because the Capitol police had opened the doors and invited many of
the protesters to come in.  This is standard.  It is not a crime to be
inside the Capitol building.

It is not a crime to be inside the Capitol building: I have been there on a guided tour involving a high-school band that had been at a band contest. Our Congressman had invited us. It went well, much unlike what happened on January 6. 

Now ask yourself what would have happened had some extreme leftists shouted "Hang Mike Pence!" I saw that on TV, and I thought it disgusting and absurd. The whole event was an attempt to disrupt the ceremonial recognition that Joe Biden had been elected President and Kamala Harris had been elected Vice-President. The Joint Chiefs of Staff made clear and simple that in accordance with laws of the US that Biden and Harris would be inaugurated on January 20. The event in Congress was a mere formality, and had the insurrectionists made the act impossible in Congress, then there would surely be some place at which Congress could do its appointed task, like the venue for Washington Wizards basketball games or Washington Capitols hockey games. Or maybe the Pentagon. Whatever.

It is unacceptable to call for violence against elected officials. Did you see liberals defend the attack on Congressman Steve Scalise?  


Quote:The Capitol police are stonewalling what happened.  They're refusing
to release the name of the Capitol officer who shot her dead.  They're
refusing to release any details of what happened.  They are known to
have video of what happened, but they're refusing to release that.
The obvious implication is that the Democrats are responsible.

The government is also refusing to show video of the whacking of Osama bin Laden. 


Quote:But none of that bothers you.  You're completely ignorant of anything
that's going on.  What you "want" is for the murder of Ashli Babbitt
to be justified, so you make up "facts" and lie about them.  Later,
you'll change your mind and lie about your lies.

There are people who more deserved what happened to Ashli Babbitt... but she took undue risks by participating in an illegal assault upon a session of Congress. Some of her video calls before she got shot have been released. She knew what was planned. She would have been an obvious candidate for arrest had she survived. Bad things happen from political violence, and this is no exception.
  
Quote:Like all other jackass Democrats, you're just a worthless troll.

I've seen more trolls on the Other Side.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(06-21-2021, 04:18 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(06-21-2021, 04:54 AM)Captain Genet Wrote: Juneteenth sounds so retarded. I understand the slaves, using African languages and having limited knowledge of English at the time, did not understand the phrase "June Nineteenth". "Emancipation Day" or "Black Independence Day" would be better names.

Relax.  It's just slang in its purest form. Plus, it seems to have held, so it can't be bad in that sense.

Right. Languages change anyway, English is a corruption of Anglo-Saxon, which is a corruption of early Germanic, which is a corruption of Proto-Indo-European. Modern usages can sound retarded, like "woke cancel culture", which would be "awake cancellation culture" or even "culture of awake cancellation" in Victorian English, but maybe they are the harbingers of a new era in language evolution.

I acted like an archetypal grumpy Xer this time.
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** 22-Jun-2021 World View: Myanmar/Burma army fights new militia in Mandalay as civil war spreads

[Image: 20210626_asm946.png]
  • Map of Myanmar / Burma, showing the warring ethnic groups (Economist)


A significant new escalation in the civil war in Myanmar / Burma is
occurring, as the clashes between anti-junta rebels is spreading from
rural areas to Mandalay, a large urban area, where a new anti-junta
militia has been formed, the Mandalay People’s Defence Force (Mandalay
PDF).

Burma's last two generational crisis wars (1886-91 and 1948-58) were
extremely bloody and violent civil wars involving multiple ethnic
groups.

Most people were hopin' and prayin' that the current civil war would
fizzle out, like the one in October 2007. But that one occurred 49
years after the climax of the last crisis war, during a generational
Unraveling era. But since 2016, Burma has been in a generational
Crisis era, so the current civil war is spreading, not fizzling.

As the civil war spreads, it may spread into the larger region, as
China, Thailand and India may be forced to intervene. We keep
discussing scenarios that could lead eventually into a world war, and
this is one possibility.

----- Sources:

-- Mandalay People’s Defence Force / Mandalay PDF ‘declares war’ on
junta
https://myanmar-now.org/en/news/mandalay...r-on-junta
(MyanmarNow, 22-Jun-2021)

-- Myanmar sinks deeper into civil war, as anti-army groups multiply
https://www.economist.com/asia/2021/06/2...s-multiply
(Economist, 20-Jun-2021)


** 29-Mar-21 World View -- Myanmar/Burma protests turn into ethnic civil war
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e210329
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So, John, the 58 year thing applies to Burma's latest violence?
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...and to think that some well-placed people in America think that a coup of the sort that took place in "Minna-mar" would solve lots of problems in America. (Yeah, sure. It would be a great time for the body-bag business).

The military-dominated regime of Myanmar practically ensures a failed state even if it has life-and-death power (and in a country as poor as Myanmar, an entity that can decide who eats and who starves has inordinate power). The Burmese military has operated much like an Orwellian regime, literally barracks socialism.

All proponents of free enterprise see barracks socialism wrong for being socialism. Those who believe in a more humanistic view of morals, whatever their economics, see barracks socialism at the least as the wrong sort of socialism. Barracks socialism in Burma/Myanmar has been irresponsible, brutal, and corrupt. See soldiers "helping in the harvest"... they are typically helping themselves to the harvest. That is one form of tax collection. Sending farm kids on furlough back to their families to aid in the critical agricultural season would do far more to aid the peasantry.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(06-22-2021, 06:19 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: > So, John, the 58 year thing applies to Burma's latest violence?

Exactly true.
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