Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Bob Butler 54]

(11-06-2016, 12:38 AM)taramarie Wrote:

Galen Wrote:They believe that they are right and everyone else should bow down before them and are equally clueless.

From what I have observed this is true. Both seeking to change the system and ultimately affect the people economically and culturally, but different agenda. Unless someone tells me otherwise that is what it looks like to me from what I have listened to.

As I said same shoe different foot it will not fit every time. So what to do to be inclusive of everyone? Respect the differences perhaps and if that cannot be done segregation may have to become a thing to protect certain beliefs not affected by others that interfere with others in order for some peace of mind. It does bother me though that they will end up in a bubble with no real understanding of others different from them however. That is merely a quick fix but does not address the issue of understanding others but also not infringing on rights and ultimately pissing people off.

I see this as going way back.  In the Agricultural Age, the Bible, pope and king could determine how everyone ought to live, and use all sorts of coercion to force it.  The Enlightenment proposed there are certain unalienable rights, and that government should not be able to coerce in violation of these right.  Thus, people should be able to establish their own life styles.

I view the series of S&H crises as struggles to move western civilization away from the Agricultural Age pattern towards the new Enlightenment pattern.  The shift from rigid authoritarian government to rights, diversity and limits on the power of government is part of this.  As such, the current red / Republican faction in the US can be viewed as fighting a rear guard action, attempting to preserve the remnants of elite privilege and authority.  On the other hand, the blue / Democratic faction is attempting to extend rights, diversity, equality and democracy.

The above pattern should be painted with a very broad brush.  It is a trend that holds over the centuries, but doesn't fit perfectly into every issue in every crisis.

Understanding other cultures is hard and will remain hard.  Allowing others who are different to be different in peace, not stepping on them so long as they don't step on you, shouldn't be hard.  Some, however, believe stepping on inferior folk is their right.

As such, I believe Galen's simplistic stereotype is inadequate.  Blue boomers and blue folk from other generations as well are much more accepting of diversity, are much less apt to force perceived inferiors to abide by their culture.  Again, the Clinton and Trump campaigns illustrate this reasonably well.