Grey Champions and the Election of 2016

[Kinser79]

(05-08-2016, 12:49 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Appealing to anger and ignorance, but only those of white people? Just look at his abysmal approval ratings.

I don't care about any polls except those people will be voting in in November.  It is May, the election is in November.  An eternity in politics.

Quote:Primaries and the general election work under very different rules.

But people do not.  If the negative attack ads didn't work in the primaries, they won't work in the general either.  Besides that there is the female factor too.  Hillary goes negative, she will be percieved as being "bitchy", which further increases her negatives (of which she has plenty).  Not to mention it opens her up for attack ads and unlike Daddy, Shillary has some real dirt.

Quote:So who gets to sport "Peabody Coal", associated with the coal gangster Don Blankenship?

I  know facts are not your strong point, but Don Blankenship is the CEO of Massey Energy.  Peabody Coal (which doesn't need quotations because that is the actual name of the company) does not employ Blankenship. Futhermore Peabody has undergone Chapter 11.  I don't think they are in a position to donate to anyone's political campaign until after their debts have been cleared.  Kinda how Chapter 11 works.

Quote:It's also a declining constituency.

The white aspects of it, perhaps.  However, working people are going to be the majority for a long long time, and they are going to be those very "low information voters" that the Democratic Elites mock.

See the thing is, and I know you wouldn't understand this because it requires actually thinking rather than regurgitating a handful of talking points you may have memorized, is that Trump's success is due because he's outside of the Establishment.  It is the same appeal that Sanders had.  Both parties are hated, the Democrats for their elitism and neo-puritanicalism and selling out the common man, the GOP for their servile adherence to the whims of the ultra-rich.

Of all people it was Noam Chomsky that predicted the rise of someone like Trump.  Unfortunately he expected that someone like him would fit the crook mold--and Trump is no crook.  

Quote:Face it. Because we have never had a female President we will never have one. We never elected a handicapped President before FDR, so he had no chance of being elected.  Just like we were never going to have a Catholic President until JFK was elected. Or like we had absolutely no chance to ever elect someone black.

I know that for Liberals these days everything comes down to identity politics.  Do you really think that women will vote for Shillary because she has a vagina--even though every prescription she has comes directly from the very prescriptions that caused this mess?  Well I'm sure some women would--but we call those women morons.  Of course I would call anyone who thinks that voting the same people in that caused this mess, into office and expecting anything different are either stupid, or crazy and possibly both.

As for FDR, he actively hid his polio, or whatever he had--they're not sure it was polio now.  JFK said point blank that he wasn't going to take direction from the Pope (what some people--who weren't going to vote for him anyway--feared) and he didn't.  As for Obama...well I didn't vote for him because he was black, maybe you did probably some of your latent racism since we know that is the equivalent to original sin (or at least for white people who happen to be liberals, and cuckservatives to a lesser extent).  I voted for him because he didn't pick Sarah Palin as his VP. 

Seriously McCain lost me after picking her.  I vetted her before he did apparently because I knew she was unqualified just by googling her minutes after the announcement.  I'll give McCain a pass on being overly harsh on that, it was a failure of his staff really.  I'm not even sure he knows what the internet is.

I'm not going to bother with the rest of your examples because they all fall under the same category.  Identity is not the basis of politics, never has been and never will be.  Try harder.

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I think I'll let Milo explain.  I can't help myself he's cute, smart and he has the right politics.