(12-11-2016, 05:04 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(12-04-2016, 07:52 PM)nihilist moron Wrote: Kinser -
I'm having some trouble navigating this forum, esp the multiple embedded quotes that make it difficult to tell who wrote what.
But from what I can tell, the liberals on this forum are much like the freaked-out liberals running the MSM. They still haven't figured out that insulting "flyover country" and demanding safe spaces won't win you any friends. And even Jill Stein, whom I used to respect a great deal, is now losing her shit.
My lib cousin told me before the election that the founders set up the electoral college because they (correctly) didn't trust the public. That elitist mentality has now come back to smack her in the face. Karma.
That's about all I have to say at this point. Might check in again in the future but like I said this forum isn't the easiest for me to read.
Take care!
It isn't just the libtards who are losing their proverbial shit. Coastal neo-cons and the cuckservatives are losing their shit as well. Just look at Alphabet Soup. He's a coastal Neocon and he's clearly losing his shit. But then again the Neo-cons themselves are derivative of Trotskyism anyway so he may fit in with the Democrats for other reasons.
"Alphabet Soup" admits that he used to be a neocon, and steadily went liberal as the neocon cause became increasingly objectionable. He left it not because it weakened; he left it because it began to become morally objectionable. That some are ex-Trotskyites demonstrates some of the appeal of neo-con ideology to the True Believer.
The True Believer? Eric Hoffer got it right. People who astound the world by going from one fanatical cause to another aren't so astonishing a phenomenon as they might seem at first. They go from one power-hungry, violent, intolerant cause to another because they are power-hungry, violent, and intolerant. If a Ku Kluxist or neo-Nazi becomes a Muslim then one can expect an "Islamofascist" because he has gone from one form of fascism to another. Thus the renegade socialists who went fascist, the brutal enforcers of fascistic regimes who became brutal enforcers of Communist regimes, Baathist brutes who became brutes for Daesh... Principle in such a cause is but window-dressing.
You having gone from supporting the legacy of Enver Hoxha to becoming a loud supporter of Donald Trump shows a lack of any thought-out principle. You can sell out a cause when it seems to be getting weak for one that seems in the ascendant.
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Peaceful protests? I take it you don't get out much. Usually BLM is rioting when they're not killing the police. The fact is that he will at the very least take out the old orders of both parties. The Democrats being a collection of interest groups held together by an ideology (social democracy) and the Republicans a collection of ideologies held together by an interest group (the chamber of commerce).
I live in a rural area. I have seen peaceful protests, but not the sorts that I want to join... Tea Party cultists and something by a LaRouche cult that protested in front of a post office with a picture of Barack Obama with a Hitler hairdo and mustache. I challenged that group with a little lie about my ethnic origin... basically because I had relatives who perished in the Holocaust (truth be told I probably had seventh-cousins or so perpetrating the Holocaust) I said that comparing Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler mocked the pointless suffering of my relatives. Those relatives might be fictional to me but they are all too real to some others.
I expect Donald Trump to create plenty of issues on which I can find compatible groups to join -- labor rights, environment, reproductive rights, education, the rights of ethnic and religious minorities... If you thought that Barack Obama had trouble with the semi-literate people of the Tea Party, then just think what happens when liberals have bigger rallies and show more wit, erudition, and civility. Should someone seek to turn the protest into an excuse for a riot, then I might take some photos for use by local prosecutors. Smash a storefront window? Torch a car? Throw a brick? Assault a cop or a peaceful protester? Click. Click. Click... with the expectation that the rioter goes to the clink... clink... clink.
Quote:My mother has been losing her shit as well. Saying things like with Trump we're going to end up with something we don't want. Honestly I don't care. Even if he does nothing but burn the place to the ground that is still progress because we've been on pause for 8 years now. The clock is ticking and the turning is half over.
Your mother and I are likely in agreement on that. Donald Trump's stated positions suggest a desire to turn race relations back at least fifty-five years and to turn labor-management relations back about ninety.
We are in the penultimate stage of the Crisis -- the time in which history accelerates. Seventy-five years ago the Axis powers were kicking the Allies everywhere. Seventy years ago most of the major Axis figures were either dead or on trial for their lives. We have been on pause because we have had leadership good enough to avoid making catastrophic mistakes but not good enough (or politically strong enough) to force a decisive and satisfying end to the Crisis.
This 4T may be more like 3/4 over. At this stage I can see similar probabilities of a salubrious ending or a horrific ending of this Crisis. We are going to see domestic strife as we have never seen before. We are going to hear invective that we will shield children from after the Crisis.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.