01-20-2017, 02:21 PM
(01-19-2017, 12:30 PM)David Horn Wrote:(01-19-2017, 12:05 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(01-18-2017, 05:50 PM)David Horn Wrote:(01-18-2017, 02:06 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: To the contrary, as discussed before, there are "magic pills" in the sense of inexpensive supplements and dietary and lifestyle strategies that would remove the need for much of the treatment. But you're uninterested in them because you can get as much treatment as you want at others' expense ... for now.
At least pbrower uses the cancer preventive.
Just so you know, I've buried family members who believed that nonsense. Real magic pills will get maximum publicity it they actually work ... but carry on. Most supplements are neutral in effect, and some improve general health for some people.
Please name the supplement and link to the randomized controlled trial published in a peer reviewed journal showing that it prevented the majority of cases of the disease they died of. Or, admit you're just not willing to look at the evidence.
I was talking about the faith given to supplements without any of those tests. Why not show me one or two that meet your criteria.
Now that you seem willing to take a look, sure. Here is a writeup I've previously done on the supplement that prevents 77% of cancer. The trial included only women over 50, but there's no reason not to believe that it would work for men, too. A link to the peer reviewed article in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition is in the footnotes of my writeup at:
http://psychohist.livejournal.com/67372.html
Illness prevention using off patent supplements don't get "maximum publicity" because, under the current health care regime, there isn't a lot of money to be made from such supplements or from keeping people from getting sick, so there's little funding either for the trials that show the supplements are effective, or for the publicity campaigns needed to make the general population aware of them. Obamacare actually provides a perverse incentive to avoid health insurers' publicizing these benefits since profits are limited to a percentage of medical costs, so effective preventive treatment, which reduces medical costs, also reduce allowed profit.
Making people responsible for their own health care costs, incidentally getting rid of the Obamacare regulations, would result in a much more price competitive market for health insurance, and would thus encourage insurers to facilitate inexpensive prevention mechanisms, such as this supplement, to cut the costs associated with treatment of the preventable conditions. People who chose to manage their own medical care using fee for service would also have a bigger incentive to learn about and use such supplements, so word might get around better for that reason as well.