ACA Repeal/Replace: Progressives Face Moral Dilemma

[Warren Dew]

(01-22-2017, 06:43 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-22-2017, 05:34 PM)TnT Wrote: Turns out that i've spent nearly 49 years of my life toiling in the medical field.

Given that, it could actually be interesting to have a civil conversation with folks who are relatively conservative about two related topics:

1. Detailed structure for a reasonably good health care delivery system in this country.

2. Detailed proposal for the financing of (1).

A peripheral topic that seems important is detailed discussion of whether, in this day and age, everyone is entitled to the best available health care (excepting of course clearly optional procedures like cosmetic surgery), or if one is only entitled to the healthcare that he/she can pay for.  Interestingly, this philosophical question impacts directly on the whole idea of health insurance.

When I've tried this before, what I mostly get from conservative folks is hand-waving and sky pictures on the care provision topic, and pretty much an "I've got mine, you get yours" approach to financing.  As Gary Johnson (my Libertarian New Mexico compatriot) says, "The Devil is in the Details."

As i recall, the Obamacare bill was about two thousand pages long. Do we have 10,000 pages available to us to commit to debating and coming up with a reasonable long term healthcare plan that satisfies everyone here?

Most of Obamacare was giveaways to various interest groups, like health insurers and corporate hospitals.  Romneycare was 100 pages and still included plenty of compromises.  I could outline a system meeting his requirements in one post, and hash out details in subsequent discussion.  But we'd have to be arguing from the same facts; if he's coming from the leftist "infinite tax money grows on trees" perspective, no productive discussion can be had.