ACA Repeal/Replace: Progressives Face Moral Dilemma

[Bob Butler 54]

(03-11-2017, 05:25 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:

(03-11-2017, 05:23 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(03-11-2017, 03:55 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:

(03-11-2017, 03:49 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: In specific, do you feel confident, seeing someone sick, in saying they shouldn't get access to health care?  UDHR 25 wasn't declared by five old men.  Eleanor Rosevelt somehow wrangled it out of the UN General Assembly.

Specifically, how do you feel about seeing a hungry person go without food?  Does your solution to this include nationalizing the nation's farms and restaurants?

One can have homeless shelters without nationalizing hotels.  One can have soup kitchens without nationalizing restaurants.  What makes you think differently?

Likewise, one can provide healthcare to the needy without necessarily mandating single-payer.

Sure can.  Write up a bill saying how.  See if you can get it passed.

We've currently got a mix of employer, self and government payments.  There are a lot of self interested factions involved who care more about their own pockets than keeping everyone healthy.  There are enough plausible schemes that none of them are in a good place to attract a clear stable majority.

Single payer would be one clean simple approach.  Subsidizing those who can't afford or access the current mix of private, company and government sponsored systems is uglier, but could be made to work.  Lots of systems could be made to work if there was some sort of consensus on how to go about it.  Thing is, there are a lot of self interested folk who want to push costs away from their own demographic.  The GOP scheme favors the healthy and the wealthy, drifts away from UDHR 25, the notion that everyone should have some access.  

Lots of ideas being thrown around, but I don't have a magic scheme that will attract a clear stable majority.  The nation is too divided.  Lots more bickering to be endured.