03-17-2017, 11:15 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-17-2017, 11:19 AM by Bob Butler 54.)
(03-17-2017, 04:24 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:(03-17-2017, 02:15 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(03-16-2017, 11:44 PM)TKinser79 Wrote: If I may interject here in your lamenting. Perhaps a fresh perspective is necessary, and I'm the guy to provide it.
(03-16-2017, 10:44 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I look at the ‘make America great again’ slogan, and note that the time of America’s greatness was the peak of the New Deal and Borrow and Spend liberalism.
Actually no. While I have no personal experience with the Great Depression I garuntee you that it was not the peak of American Greatness. As for the Borrow and Spend Liberalism of the Regan/Bush I and Bush II eras were not the peak of American greatness either.
I think he was referring to the post Depression/World War II era (FDR to Carter). Tax and Spend Liberalism that I think he was actually referring to ended with Reagan. I guess the government could no longer afford to absorb the losses that were carried forward from the Vietnam and Korean Wars, the losses associated with the the recession that followed Vietnam, all the costs associated with establishing and maintaining our new position as a world leader and the costs associated with all the new social programs that were added by LBJ's Great Society.
Big quibble here. Bob used the phrase "Borrow and Spend" not tax and spend. Reagan did cut taxes but he kept spending the same, when he should have slashed spending. Reagan, Bush I and Bush II ran up the debt (granted no near as much as Obama did) by either cutting or keeping taxes the same while continuing to spend.
Honestly the government needs to slash spending. The new Budget Blueprint is a start...I think it should go further there's whole departments I want gutted but its a start.
You are correct. I blew it. FDR through JFK would be tax and spend. Reagan, Bush Bush would be borrow and spend.
I'm more inclined to tax more than spend less. We've been cutting taxes and services since the unravelling. The younger generations just aren't into paying any price, bearing any burden and meeting any hardship as the GIs were, as everybody was before the National Malaise struck home. It's all selfishness and privilege to them.
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