ACA Repeal/Replace: Progressives Face Moral Dilemma

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(03-25-2017, 05:38 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(03-25-2017, 05:25 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(03-25-2017, 10:08 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I guess we might ask what's next.  A week or three of finger pointing seems inevitable.  The White House has given up.  During the campaign, the question was whether to repeal and replace, or whether to tune up and stabilize.  Repeal and replace seems to be gone, but few think it Obamacare can be left as it is.

I think the Democrats want something that will work for most everybody.  Some Republicans want to make life easier for the wealthy and healthy, and object philosophically to certain aspects.  Is there room to dicker?  I'd like to see the Democrats put together a fix it proposal, then really listen to what it would take to get enough Republicans to vote for something that works.

Then see if Trump throws around veto threats.

The blame game is creative.  One way of looking at it is that the Democrats did as they promised and to a great extent make their base happy.  The Republicans did neither.  One can wave one's hands and pretend that in a fey world loss is victory, but who delivered on their promises?

Well, I'd say the opportunity for the Democrats to tune up and stabilize has already come and gone at this point. So, we are pretty much stuck with a failing healthcare bill that will only get worse as time goes on. Woo hoo! The Democrats did a great job fucking everyone (especially those they claim to care about so much) who has healthcare by opting out of the process all together.

Or maybe it was the Republicans who fucked up, by never working with the Democrats on real reform, and instead doing nothing but voting to repeal it for 7 years without any replacement? Maybe it was the voters, who failed to put leaders in office who could have made Obamacare work and made it less dependent on the insurance industry, which is the cause of most of the problems in health care?

The Republicans were placed on ignore during the process associated with Obamacare. Arrogant Democrats don't have to listen to or include Republicans when they have a super majority and a rubber stamp in the White House. Trump doesn't care if Obamacare fails and a bunch of older/younger OBAMA voters who didn't vote (seem to hate him) eventually loose their free healthcare. As he said, the proper thing to do as far as political interest go would be allow it to fail as it will and move on the passing other things leaving the Democrats to deal with their own mess. Well, he tried and the Democrats didn't seem to want anything to do with it or seem to care that's it's failing. So fuck them, it's their baby. The spent seven years presenting stuff that they knew wasn't going to get passed because that's what politicians do to keep their jobs. I'm sure Trumps election surprised them as much as it surprised the Democrats. Myself, I wouldn't bailout the Democrats. I'd let them deal with their own failure.