ACA Repeal/Replace: Progressives Face Moral Dilemma

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(03-28-2017, 06:23 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:

(03-28-2017, 03:11 PM)Galen Wrote:

(03-28-2017, 10:59 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(03-28-2017, 12:07 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: Irony - the GOP have been doing everything possible to set us up for Single Payer. First, they did not participate in ACA or present any credible alternative either before or after ACA. This goes back to the failed Hillary Care during the 90s. They have had 25 years to come up with something of their own. And now, they shit the bed.

Single Payer here we come.

Single payer ain't going to fly. The majority of Americans aren't blue idiots at this point. How many Americans do you know who spend the bulk of their time/life fucking off, wasting time, running around in endless circles clinging to hope?

Doctors appear to be dropping insurance and medicare.  Interesting how the free market is in the process of solving a problem the government caused in the first place.

When this becomes a crisis of availability, and no hybrid solution ala Obama-care or its aborted bastard child Trump-care is available, the resulting backlash will give us single payer. Deny though one may, that is what is coming. The set up is now in place. Own it.

There will never be single payer in the US.  There are several good reasons why.

1.  People who've used Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA find it difficult to find a doctor who will take them, and in the case of the VA--yeah that is government run health care and it works great.  Said no one whose ever tried to use it, ever.

2.  Where is the money going to come from to pay for this single payer?  Are we going to raise taxes?  Cut spending elsewhere (say the military and intelligence agencies) or will the government just inflate its way out.  As we know the printing press option never ever has consequences.

3.  Diversity is not our strength.  European countries (and the Anglophone countries--except the US) implemented their systems when they were more or less monocultural and homogeneous.  The US has never been homogeneous even when it attempted to be monocultural.


So we have the perfect trifecta as to why single payer isn't ever happening in the US.  1.  If the government runs something, it turns to shit--always.  2.  We don't have the money to pay for it without having either inflation or taxation--and the former will end the petrodollar faster than the latter.  3.  Lack of clear tribe on the national scale.