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Debate about the Vietnam War
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(06-06-2016, 07:42 AM)Anthony 58 Wrote: No one understands, respects, and appreciates the fact that African-Americans have always had - and still have - legitimate grievances more than I do.  Yet at the same time, it is never acceptable to collaborate with a foreign enemy in time of total war - and don't kid yourself: The Cold War was a total war - had we lost, it would have meant a Communist boot stamping on the human face forever; by contrast, there was never any concrete evidence that the Nazis had any conquest ambitions for the Western Hemisphere.


Yes, but we lost Vietnam; and Vietnam hasn't turned out anywhere near as bad as we feared it would be in the hands of the communists. The Vietnamese were fighting us because we had invaded their country, and they wanted their own. There was never the remotest threat that Vietnam would invade America.

Quote:And why was the Vietnam War "immoral"?  North Vietnam and its Viet Cong stooges invaded South Vietnam, which was not making any aggressive moves whatsoever towards them.  And what G-d damn hypocrites the Boomer cowards and traitors were - calling this noble war "immoral" while concomitantly having sex like rabbits without even the thought of getting married, just as they called our brave police officers "pigs" while they themselves lived like pigs, hardly ever taking baths, etc.

And since when does disapproving of treason make anyone a chickenhawk?  Was Dante a chickenhawk for reserving the very lowest circle of his Inferno for traitors?

There was never any such thing as a South Vietnam for the North to "invade." The Viet Cong were from the South. The USA were the invaders. When I think about Bush's invasion of Iraq being "the worst foreign policy blunder ever by the USA," and then I remember Vietnam, I have to say there was a worse one. The Boomer peace activists were the heroes for trying to stop it. Yes, Boomers were wrong to call police "pigs," but they did it because they came onto campus to put down the demonstrations against the war. Police when they misbehave, as they still do when they shoot unarmed young black people, need to be called to account, just as our government needs to be opposed when it starts deadly, unnecessary wars. I'd say young Boomers not taking a bath was nothing to yell about compared to young Boomers being forced by their government to go to a distant land and kill other young people who had done nothing to them or their country at all. Yes, that was way immoral.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-05-2016, 11:29 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-06-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Odin - 06-06-2016, 03:08 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-06-2016, 04:27 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Odin - 06-06-2016, 08:39 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-06-2016, 10:28 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-06-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Odin - 06-06-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Dan '82 - 06-06-2016, 06:19 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-07-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-08-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-08-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Bronco80 - 06-08-2016, 08:48 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Eric the Green - 06-08-2016, 05:29 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-09-2016, 06:33 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-09-2016, 06:56 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-09-2016, 09:05 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-09-2016, 02:04 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-10-2016, 08:30 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Odin - 06-09-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-10-2016, 06:41 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Odin - 06-10-2016, 07:01 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-10-2016, 07:15 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Odin - 06-10-2016, 12:41 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-12-2016, 09:45 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-12-2016, 11:39 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Dan '82 - 06-14-2016, 05:44 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-28-2016, 08:37 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-28-2016, 10:15 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-28-2016, 10:33 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by Anthony '58 - 06-28-2016, 12:10 PM
RE: Obituaries - by Odin - 06-05-2016, 08:56 PM
RE: Obituaries - by Odin - 06-06-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: Obituaries - by Anthony '58 - 06-06-2016, 07:42 AM
RE: Obituaries - by Odin - 06-06-2016, 03:06 PM
RE: Obituaries - by pbrower2a - 06-06-2016, 11:23 AM

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