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America is a sick society
(08-01-2017, 09:10 AM)David Horn Wrote: Assuming you are right, and the author of the referenced article is as well, nothing short of a cataclysmic crash that triggers mass dislocation and even starvation is going to overcome that mind set. 
The last time it was an economic depression. They was no starvation. Indices of population well-being continued to rise: male height rose from 174.5 cm to 176 for 1930 to 1940; life expectancy rose strongly--by two years.  Neither is evidence of starvation.

Quote:As a nation, we can't survive that and rebound to anything greater than second class status, so another answer needs to be found. 
Why?

Quote:Bernie Sanders did yeoman's work trying to raise the flag and get things rolling, but we let that opportunity pass. 
No we didn't.  Electing Bernie would have been a mistake of epic proportions. Bernie is playing the role of John the Baptist.  His big accomplishment IMO opinion is in created the idea that the economy is rigged against working people. Similarly OWS created the meme of the 1%. Together the two link inequality and "rigged". 

Functionally, the *cause* of a great deal (not all) of our problems is high inequality.  "Rigging" is one way this is achieved. Republicans *after* the economy was rigged became the party of tax cuts.  Before the rigging was installed and Republicans were the party of tax increases.  You want Republicans to stop fighting tax increases tooth and nail?  To paraphrase Treebeard from LOTR: Break the rigging, release the river (of wage growth):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue_eOP4x_fo

My recent paper describes how the river was established in the first place.
http://escholarship.org/uc/item/42p5m46m

Quote:I'm convinced that this won't be fixed in our lifetimes,,
Why? So far the problem has left elites unaffected.  Do you think this situation will persist forever?
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America is a sick society - by Eric the Green - 12-15-2016, 04:29 PM
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RE: America is a sick society - by David Horn - 12-20-2016, 05:21 PM
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RE: America is a sick society - by Eric the Green - 12-20-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: America is a sick society - by David Horn - 12-20-2016, 03:05 PM
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RE: America is a sick society - by David Horn - 12-20-2016, 05:29 PM
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RE: America is a sick society - by The Wonkette - 12-21-2016, 01:29 PM
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