America is a sick society

[David Horn]

(08-06-2017, 08:29 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(08-06-2017, 08:19 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-03-2017, 11:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I don't see that the USA can survive as a leading democratic country and economy if another entire saeculum must take place before it changes course. The forces of decline will prevail in that case. The momentum will not be stoppable. The backlash will have been robbed of any awareness or power to stop it, and the result of the overextension will be collapse pure and simple, augmented by climate collapse on a massive scale. A large middle class is usually necessary for a revolution to be successful, unless it's a temporary one soon taken over again by the new boss, same as the old boss.

The US has a unique situation that makes a rebound possible for us that might not be for others.  First, we are very large, both in land mas and population.  Size matters.  Second, we have a wealth of natural resources to draw on.  Third, we have friendly neighbors, and one is physically as large as the US with even greater natural assets.

So, we can and most likely will recover, if it comes to that.

Why would you assume that a recovery is possible later after a massive breakdown of civil society, the middle class, education/media and democracy, but no recovery is possible sooner, before these collapses fully set in?

Even in the worst of times, there is a core of sensible people who are available for clean-up duty.  Will it be easy or quick?  No, of course not, but the inherent wealth of the country and that core of good people make it possible.  Look at Germany at the end of WW-II and today.  They had a long period of national soul searching but came through.  The US can as well.