ACA Repeal/Replace: Progressives Face Moral Dilemma

[Eric the Green]

(08-15-2017, 02:19 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(08-14-2017, 03:49 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-01-2017, 04:19 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: I myself am in the "not-quite-elderly" category, so I have a strong incentive to give us the best system.  However, the best system is not one that makes us sick and then gives us expensive, counterproductive medical care by bankrupting the next generation.

The best system is one that keeps us healthy.  That involves better diet and lifestyle, not more medical care.  The more money you throw at the medical system, the worse it gets.

OK, but don't have cancer, a stroke, any of a hundred ailments involving internal organs, or a major accident requiring surgeries and rehab.

No worries.  Better diet and lifestyle prevent cancer, stroke, etc.

Quote:The purpose for insurance is to cover unexpected or preexisting conditions with a structure that permits the affected to get affordable care.  Everybody for himself is not an answer, so pick an option that is.  There are easily 25 of 30 decent models in use somewhere.

Pick whatever option you want, as long as you pay for it yourself instead of trying to get others to pay for you.

What David said. You aren't getting others to pay you, if you use medicare, medicaid, single payer, or health insurance. You are using social or capitalist insurance. You pay for it, and others pay for it; we pay together, and that protects us, when we're healthy, and when we're not.

I and others I know had a diet and lifestyle better than most Americans, and I am still getting those things. Age is still a factor, and unforeseen events. And our faulty diet and lifestyle is marketed and promoted by the capitalists whom you favor, and required by the job market. We have a choice, but frequently it's not easy. And what is the best diet and lifestyle for you? No-one really knows. Science changes its mind all the time about these things. As with all things in the free market, what is offered to us is what the oligarchy decides to offer to us, for their convenience and benefit, at inflated prices that leave most people out. The market does not correct itself. The free market is not enough; it does not work. It creates a few rich people that have all the power.