ACA Repeal/Replace: Progressives Face Moral Dilemma

[Kinser79]

(08-26-2017, 06:11 AM)Mikebert Wrote:

(08-18-2017, 07:23 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: If I were to suggest a model, I would suggest that it be as follows:

1.  Abolish medicaid, SCHIP, VA Hospitals (and yes I'm a "vet" too--I just served during a time of relative peace in a service unlikely to see action except in "big ones") and other sundry programs.
2.  Expand medicare to cover everyone and cover any procedures deemed by doctors to be medically necessary. 
3.  Allow private insurance to cover elective procedures
4.  Reduce total qualification age of medicare to birth.

Problem solved.  It will never be implemented of course because it makes too much sense.  Also this is the very ideas that have been pushed by Dennis Kuchinich since forever.

That's close to Canadian-style Medicare, which your side strenuously opposes and has opposed for 70 years.

Mike, I seriously doubt you actually know what side I'm on. I actually opposed Obamacare on the grounds of "It doesn't go far enough".

(08-26-2017, 06:23 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(08-26-2017, 06:11 AM)Mikebert Wrote:

(08-18-2017, 07:23 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: If I were to suggest a model, I would suggest that it be as follows:

1.  Abolish medicaid, SCHIP, VA Hospitals (and yes I'm a "vet" too--I just served during a time of relative peace in a service unlikely to see action except in "big ones") and other sundry programs.
2.  Expand medicare to cover everyone and cover any procedures deemed by doctors to be medically necessary. 
3.  Allow private insurance to cover elective procedures
4.  Reduce total qualification age of medicare to birth.

Problem solved.  It will never be implemented of course because it makes too much sense.  Also this is the very ideas that have been pushed by Dennis Kuchinich since forever.

That's close to Canadian-style Medicare, which your side strenuously opposes and has opposed for 70 years.

It seems Kinser is favoring single payer on health care, is not toeing the Republican / Conservative line at all in health care.  I'm not sure why, but I'm not complaining.

It seems that way because I don't.

Ideally we'd take an existing program that has most of the bugs worked out (Medicare), and expand it to cover the middle aged, young adults and children as well as the elderly. Once that is done then other problems with the medical system can be addressed, such as the AMA restricting the number of doctors and nurses put into circulation.

ETA:

I also support implementing a program to encourage people to write out living wills and DNR orders. The most expense in health care comes from the end of life. A lot of the time that is spending more and more money for less and less return.