No more Millennial children

[Kinser79]

(01-21-2018, 02:18 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(01-21-2018, 10:20 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:

(01-21-2018, 06:10 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Howe and Strauss said that the GI/Silent boundary was not well defined until the end of World War II,

Which supports my view that generational boundary definition is a lagging indicator.  It does not however support the absurd theory that generations can last much longer than a quarter century, maximum.  At least no in the industrial saeculum.  Pre-industrial saecula are more murky.  (and less relevant)

Industrial era? We are in the post-industrial era in which the basic consumer goodies are cheap. Of course, real estate, medicine, public services, legal process, and especially real estate aren't cheap. Some of the cost reflects monopolization which will turn anything into a rip-off.

I think you don't understand what I mean by Industrial and Pre-Industrial.  I do not buy into the notion that we are in, or could be post-industiral. Just like I don't believe in the notion of being a post-agricultural.  All those cheap consumer goodies are made in a factory after all.  Corn is cheap because we grow it by the ton on huge ass farms too.

While I would say that we are currently undergoing a information revolution, we are not now, nor ever can be post-industrial.  Just like people didn't stop farming because the industrial revolution happened.  Of course it has occurred to me that you're just an idiot and say things with no meaning like the word "post-industrial" because some academic whose connection with reality is tenuous at best made it up.  I'm not one to ever really accuse you of having original thoughts PBR.

Medicine, public services, legal processes are an economic expense.  They consume the wealth generated by productive sectors of the society (namely agriculture, industry and resource extraction).

Quote:But even NCO's

The "N" part of NCO stands for the prefix "non-".  I'm going to out on a limb here and assume you understand what the prefix "non-" means.  If you don't well I'm wasting my time as it is a fairly common prefix in the English Language.

Quote:can develop some talent for command useful as blue-collar supervisors. Let us not forget that post-WWII veterans' organizations offered more to veterans of the GI Generation for participation in "the Big One -- "Double-ya, Double-ya Two", as the fictional Archie Bunker put it. Combat in Korea didn't count for as much, and occupation duty in Japan or western Germany after the war (a near-vacation) didn't count much either. Young Silent soldiers were in Europe in case the Soviet Union tried to push it's order into western Europe by military invasion.

Agreed.  Korea is largely a forgotten conflict.  Occupation duty as I said was actually pretty cushy if you weren't in logistics (it took several years to repair the transport infrastructure in Europe.  As I said previously the hard break only became evident after the fact hence why I say that generational boundaries are lagging indicators.  You do understand what the phrase "lagging indicator" means don't you?  Then again you might not since you seem to think that new home starts are a leading economic indicator.  

Quote:Should Donald Trump have to resign in disgrace,

Donald Trump is not Richard Nixon.  We've been hearing "Muh Racism" and "Muh Russia" for over two years now from the Dims.  If he was dirty something would have been found long before now.

Quote:then most likely Mike Pence has dirty hands too.

Like what? Sauce or it didn't happen (Lefty rags probably won't be counted as Sauce either).  He signed a couple unpopular laws as Indiana Governor?  That doesn't mean shit.  The worst anyone can really say about Pence is he doesn't like fags too much.  That also doesn't mean shit.  Considering Pence opposes throwing me off roofs and the Dims want to import people who want to throw me off a roof he's the lesser evil in that reguard.

Quote:I doubt that Republicans and Democrats could concur on appointing a VP  should the Democrats have one or both Houses of Congress. Approval ratings of both the Presidency and Congress are now far worse than those for Obama and the Democratic-majority House and Senate in early 2010. If the Tea Party could wear down Obama and the Democratic-majority Congress, then the larger and more coherent opposition to this President can do even more damage to those in power.

Approval polls that do not reveal their methodology doesn't mean shit.  Sure the President and the GOP in general are not popular in Commiefornia but who cares (people are fleeing that shithole state).  Remember these same polls said that HRC was certain to be President and yet she isn't

That being said, here's some analysis from my favorite former satanist as to the liklihood of the Dims taking back the House, (The senate is unlikely to even be in play).




 

Quote:Which is like saying that Handel, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner, Tchaikovsky, and Prokofiev are 'mere entertainment'.  Yes, composers did not have the effect upon political life that a Lincoln, Bismarck, Churchill, or Mandela could have.

Exactly.  Mere entertainers are not all that important unless they are informing the broader cultural narrative.  The Silents you illustrated really didn't.  They may have at most painted themselves of parodies of the GI established order.

Quote:But one goes through the secondary channels of broadcast stations when the newer material is dull and one can find such a program as M*A*S*H.

I wouldn't know.  I've not watched Tee-Vee in years.  And why should I, when I can watch whatever I want, whenever I want with a few clicks of the mouse.  Tee-Vee is dead.  I don't even watch it for the news.  The Tee-Vee is in the house to pacify my mother who is the only person who gives a damn about having it on.  Mind you she's a couple years older than you. 

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So what does a post-industrial world in which people cannot buy happiness by simply buying more stuff do to the generational cycle? We cannot know, and of this we must remain mute.  I would guess that elites who have spend a Junior Year in Paris are less likely to want to destroy Paris.

Well since we dispute there being a "post-industrial" world to start with I would say not a whole lot.  After all you have yet to convince me that manufactured goods are not made in a factory somewhere.  Do not be fooled by a half dozen hipsters making arteasonal cheese in your locality most goods are still mass produced and produced for mass consumption.  After all I have no interest in "arteasonal" 30 mg psudoephadrine nasal decongestant tablets (and I use that example because it literally is the last consumer good I bought).

Though I did buy a personal vaporizor that is produced in few numbers--the maker is a Navy vet too and it was just too sexy a mod to not buy.

Mostly I think like usual you lack any argument so you've resorted to talking out of your ass and out of envy.  And I've been to Paris (the one in France)  it needs a good firebombing as it is overrun with turdworld barbarians and of course the French.

Quote:He renovated the old Post Office Building in DC as one of his hotels,

So fucking what?  The Postal Service sold the building to him.  It was his to do as he pleased with.

Quote:and those who want his favors are wise to show receipts from their stays there.

Citation needed.  But even assuming you're right without the citation, so fucking what?  Every other politican expects a donation in exchange for favors.  If anything a recipt for staying at a nice Trump hotel in exchange for a favor is probably selling himself short.

 

Quote:I've seen images of the gaudiness of some Trump Towers... and I prefer the integrity of the minimal Motel 6 to that should I travel alone. I might want to catch up on some news and my favorite computer sites before I go to bed.  But I am an educated person of rural middle-class origin who does not fall for ostentatious display. Surely you remember my thread in which I compared Trump taste to that of some up-from-nowhere tyrants and eventually drug lords... although I can admire legitimate achievement as in old movie palaces I'm not much into expensive, wasteful display.

Yeah, I remember that thread.  And as I said there so far your only real criticism of the President is that he has poor taste.  I actually agree with you that he has poor taste.  However, I didn't vote for him to decorate the country--I voted for him to run it.  So far, despite the opposition he's faced that is nearly unprecedented in the first half of a first term he's done spectacularly. 

Quote:Possible. The Trump 'solution' could backfire badly. He lacks the political skills of Ronald Reagan, the last conservative President to effect lasting change in American political practice (and not all for the good). What happens if the Democrat elected in 2020 or 2024 is basically a "Reagan of the Left"?

A hint -- the Right wanted Obama to fail, and they did everything possible to ensure that he would fail.

The Democrats don't have a "Reagan of the Left".  I'd also argue that Regan was a decent actor and not a very hands on doer--he delegated a great deal to George H. W. who filled the administration with what would later be called Neo-Cons.  I would say the difference is that Reagan played a good president on Tee-Vee.  Trump is a (so-far) good president who seems to be quite eccentric on Tee-Vee.  Not that it really matters how the President seems on Tee-Vee since the only people watching that garbage should have been dead five years ago.

Quote:First of all:

1. The gig economy with no job security makes a welfare state necessary. At the least we will need unemployment insurance so that people who have highly-honed talent can wait out a cyclical downturn and not take a job from some unskilled worker.

Unemployment insurance is just that:  Insurance.  It is not welfare.  It is payed into through contributions by the employers of the state.  I should know since I have to sign off on those payments as a monthly expense.  You would know that if you've ever managed a business (never mind owned one) but you haven't so whatever.

Quote:2. Big Business has itself adapted to the welfare state. Wal*Mart may be quite reactionary on labor-management relations, but it makes much profit off food aid. SNAP turns people who out of desperation might be shoplifters into paying customers. Government relies heavily upon the educational system for job training.

Have you stopped to consider that Wal-mart in particular can offer the low wages that it does because it externalizes the wages it would otherwise pay in cash assistance, AFDC and SNAP?  Of course not...but then again working retail is beneath you after all.  In the absence of a welfare state yes there will be slightly more crime but also many people will take a job, any job, reguardless of pay.  

Quote:3. Then why do Hispanics and Asians who have few cultural affinities to American blacks vote like blacks?

Citation needed.  Where I live we have a large population of Latinos (Cubans [and their offspring] in particular) as well as quite a few East Asians (my kid's boyfriend for example is first generation American, his folks are from Korea).  They all vote overwelmingly Republican.

Quote:4. The Dixiecrat wing of the Democratic Party of the once-solid South found its way to the Republican Party

No not really.  I've already posted you Dinesh D'Souza's video elsewhere as to why you are wrong on this.  It is some myth that feels good to believe, I understand, but it is still a myth.

As too the South being governed badly you should probably check out statistics more recent than the 1960s or something.  While Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana are governed badly--they always have been.  Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, the Carolinas as well as Texas and Virginia are largely speaking governeed well.  And with the exception of Virginia which has a giant blue blotch on its top third these states are overwhelmingly Red.

Quote:What the Dixiecrat pols did badly, contemporary Democrats do little better now.

Indeed most of the Northern cities that are broke and broken are Dimocrat run.

Quote:Who knows? I might write a novel some day.

I doubt you will.  Writing novels takes effort and as someone who regularly writes short stories writing takes a creativity you've not demonstrated on the forum, and effort I've not seen you apply to anything.
 

Quote:Re-read Generations. America is becoming more repressive about sex except on same-sex rights.

Strangely it is the ones who style themselves as liberals who are the most repressed sexually.  Sex negative Feminazis are not on the right.  The Civic Nationalist right doesn't care what one does with their genitals provided the other person(s) involved are consenting adults.  You of course would know that if you left the fucking house on occasion.

Quote:I still strongly disapprove of underage sex whether it is between naive underage people

Sexual activity between two persons who are underage is not an issue--unless your issue is with normal teenage sexuality.  But you are a liberals so you probably do have an issue with normal sexuality in general--never mind the teenagers.

Quote:or whether it is between someone underage and an exploitative pervert.

Child molestation is a crime and it is also rape and completely unacceptable.  That being said I think there needs to be greater leeway in statutory rape.  After all 18 y/o fucking his 16 y/o girlfriend is not a pervert exploiting someone.

 

Quote:Marijuana? I don't like it, but a crackdown on it does more harm than good.

The eventual legalization of Marijuana is baked it.  It will likely be removed from the Controlled Substances Act once the first Core Xer President is elected.  Obama was just barely an Xer.

Quote:The corporatist right-wingers,

Are really big government liberals.  Corporatism requires big government liberalism to exist.  It is a creature of the left.  Much like National Socialism though called right wing is likewise a creature of the left.

 

Quote:the Bible-thumpers,

I don't like them either but they are less objectionable than the Jihadis that the Left has been cozying up to and want to import in unlimited numbers into this country.

 

Quote:and the (utopian) libertarians on the Right have begun to turn on each other.

Libertarians are a fractious bunch to start with.  When they aren't arguing with each other you should be worried.

Quote:The masters of most fields develop their passions in childhood, hone their craft in early adulthood, and go on autopilot as they approach midlife.

Not an argument.  The fact remains that Zeds are already engaging into the fields of journalism, culture and politics.  They are also doing so from a far more conservative direction than has been seen since before WW2.

Quote:But quality-control matters.

Well if it is quality you're after and quality control matters then you won't find it on CNN, MSNBC, the Alphabet Networks, the Wall Street Journal, New York Times.  If you think you can then you've clearly not been paying attention to their output in the past ten years.

 

Quote:Branding matters. of course I expect a shake-out in the media. It could be that the New York Times is more useful in Lansing, Michigan as a news source than is the Lansing Journal-Gazette.  We will still need local media for local news, weather, sports, TV listings, death notices, and the like. Rags like the Detroit News and Free Press put much of their attention into the sports pages., which will be one means of survival.

It is unlikely that the tradition news paper will survive.  My local newspaper the Daytona Beach News-Journal  is particularly terrible.  Typically I only buy editions during two seasons of the year--hunting season (where it serves me in the woods as cheap and hardy toilet paper and kindling, and fishing season where I use it to wrap up fish.  Otherwise I wouldn't buy it at all.  The NYT could probably provide me more TP and fish wrappings than the News-Journal but I find the price prohibitively expensive for the intended use of the product.

Quote:As a journalistic hobbyist, basically an editorial writer, I am well past the 10K hours.

The difference between a "journalistic hobbyist" and a Alternative Media Journalist is a Patreon account.  I you're well past 10K hours I'm sure that you could perhaps make a few hundred a month just asking for donations.

Quote:How good is the High?

Is irrelevant to the fact that the name "high" was a poor word choice on the part of S&H.

Quote:1. Does a country emerge victorious but not exhausted, or if it is defeated or exhausted does it recover quickly? Much of Britain's problem was its costly and internally-divisive decolonization. See also France, the Netherlands, and at a later stage Portugal.

2. Does the country reject austerity? Britain preserved its wartime rationing a bit too long. Not until Thatcher dod the Brits open the spigots on consumerism as America did in the late 1980s.

3. Does the political and cultural order eschew cultural repression? Culturally-repressive societies like the Soviet Union typically fossilize despite their pretensions to continuing revolution just as Franco-era Spain and Salazar-era Portugal did with the support of reactionary leadership that rejected modernity. It is hard to imagine the Beatles emerging from the Soviet Union or some fascistic country. What many of us see as Spanish cultural achievement (Miro, Picasso, Casals) occurred in countries like France and the USA after Franco took over.

All of this sounds like an argument for my division of 1Ts into Resolutions and Expositions.  I'm not going to even bother to discuss with you my opinion on Miro, Picasso and Casals.  So-called modern "art" is almost always ugly pretentious crap.

Quote:Most of America disagrees with you about Donald Trump.

Citation needed.  Also I don't give a fuck about polls without methodologies and National Polling in particular is useless.

 

Quote:The Idealist generation reaches the peak of its power when it takes over the highest offices. But even that is the end of the line.

Then the Peak for Boomers happened around 1994.

Quote:Some people reach chronological old age -- the people who stay physically active, avoid cancerweed products, eat healthy foods, and drink in moderation if at all. Some people get old before others, and that means people with sedentary lifestyles, bad eating habits, use of street drugs, cancerweed products, and alcoholism.

Are Boomers opposed to mathmatics on principle?  If average life expectancy is 80 then Middle age must begin at 40.  Once one reaches 60 then they would be in the last quarter of their 80 year expectation.

Birth-20:  Childhood
20-40:  Young Adulthood
40-60:  Middle Age
60+:  Old age.

The fact that some people are healthier longer than others does not change the fact that the average is the average.  Or are you like Eric the Ignoramus intentionally ignoring the forest for the fucking trees.

Quote:I know my material, and I get to the school as early as possible to be prepared for the coming day. The district gets an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. I'm really good at math and science, but I can administer an English class if it involves reading or spelling. I am also a firm disciplinarian who starts rigid and can loosen up as a reward. I typically lecture for about five minutes  (which is about all that most K-12 students can tolerate, anyway), give an in-class assignment, and circulate around to see who is struggling.  But -- students will do classwork while I am the sub. I cannot work any other way.

1.  I doubt you know your material unless the curriculum has been dumbed down in your area to the point of anyone with an IQ above room temperature being able to obtain a passing grade.  Where do you sub--Detoilet?

2.  Showing up early doesn't mean very much.

3.  Let me guess, you're not afraid to send referrals to the office.  Good for you.  Doesn't mean that you are controling the class anyway.  My husband is a teacher and according to him only about 10% of the kids are really troublemakers anyway.

4.  I would venture to guess you largely are following the predtermined lesson plan of the regular teacher--and that assumes you actually teach instead it basically being an easy day for the students.  That being said I wouldn't want you subbing for science, math or civics.  Your posts on the forum would indicate you're simply not qualified to teach those courses.  Maybe you can buy pass that by restricting yourself to students in Elementary or Mi

Quote:I could never make sense of quantum mechanics, which indicates that I do not have a PhD in physics and nothing else.

Most physicists cannot make sense of quantum mechanics either so having an PhD in physics probably wouldn't help you much. 

Quote:It's usually pointless to suggest what someone deceased for sixty years would say of someone around today -- but Mencken would probably have ripped Donald Trump for his sexual depravity, moral relativism, and hollow intellect. Mencken was an iconoclast.

I'm not so sure about that.  Trump has had three wives but a surprisingly low number of sex scandals--that number being zero.  So he's likely not sexually depraved.  Moral relativism is par for the course in politics--I'd be more shocked if he wasn't.  I'm not concerned by hollow intellect--we had an intellectual president and he quite frankly fucking sucked.  I'm speaking of Professor Urkle...er...I mean Obama

I'm somewhat of an iconoclast myself, and I think Daddy is great.  He certainly triggers all the right people.