02-04-2018, 12:25 PM
(02-03-2018, 08:35 AM)Bob Butler 5 Wrote: I believe, for example, that global warming and the need to acknowledge the post scarcity way of business are very much real. We are going to see a lot of what is considered holy writ thrown away. It is not clear that the 2nd can be thrown in the bucket of certainty. Every time the statistics are thrown around, you fail for good reason to carry your point.
Not really. The difference between developed countries with strict gun laws and the USA is profound; murder and suicide rates are much higher in the USA
The difference between states on murder rates and gun laws is affected by many factors. The data on 2016 murder rates, gun laws, and the general approach to life represented by red and blue states as of 2016, is as follows:
17 states with highest murder rates: average murder rate rank 8.5. Average lax gun law rank: 19.5. 11 red states, 4 purple states, 2 blue states.
17 states in the middle: average murder rate rank: 26.5. Average lax gun law rank: 25.3. 7 red states, 6 purple states, 4 blue states
16 states with lowest murder rates: average murder rate rank: 42.5. Average lax gun law rank: 32.1. 5 red states, 2 purple states, 9 blue states.
So there's a trend of higher murder rates in states with lax gun laws, as well as a trend of higher murder rates in red states.
Suicide rate data is much clearer, showing states with lax gun laws have higher suicide rates.
Murder rate data from https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rate...tate#MRord
lax gun law rankings from http://www.crimadvisor.com/data/Brady-St...d-2014.pdf (see 50 state rankings)
red and blue states are my estimate, including some blue states that went purple as of 2016.