Convictions of war criminals and human-rights violators

[Eric the Green]

(04-06-2018, 05:05 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(04-05-2018, 08:58 PM)Cynic Hero Wrote:

(11-23-2017, 02:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Assad is just as bad as the Islamic State (Daesh, ISIS, ISIL), and much more deadly. Assad has killed hundreds of thousands in Syria and forced millions out of his destroyed country. Now that his fellow war criminal Putin came and propped him up with more horrific crimes, Assad is still in power, but he does not yet control the portions of Syria liberated from the IS by the Kurds and native Syrians who are from or near the territories which the IS controlled. The Kurds may continue the rebellion against Assad if he comes in and bombs and destroys them as he has the rest of his country. If and when this happens, what would the USA do to support these groups, whom they supported in their fight against the IS?

Boomers need to understand that Assad is Syria's legitimate government. Syria is a sovereign state and is not bound by western laws. Boomers have to accept that the Syrian government is the legitimate authority within Syria's sovereign boundaries.

Right on  man.    This fucking US hypocrisy is driving me nuts.  We have a shitpot of our war criminals to ship off to the Hague first.  Here's a list.   The world would be a much saner, logical, and safer place if we'd just ship 'em all off, preferably in the cargo bin.  <- They're all to unworthy of a flight in coach.And... did you notice, Eric didn't specify, what exactly would replace Assad.  Rags knows it would be a resurgent ISIS or some other Jihadis.

US out of Syria! US out of Africa! US out of Iraq! US out of Afghanistan after 17 years afterblowing money and bodies everywhere. However, not all in this rogues gallery are Boomers. Rather it's a list of who's who in an evil witches/warlock coven of unmitigated evil.

I'd like to see an international coalition go in and replace Assad with (what everybody knows but for some reason keeps denying) the Free Syrians, and help them set up a democracy. The Assad government has no legitimacy whatsoever. I agree the US should not invade on its own, but preferably with other nations with UN sanction and after negotiations with Russia so that their interests are protected. International order in the real sense is what is needed; nations going it alone, either pulling in their horns shouting "America First," or going it alone in imperialist ventures, is something that needs to be ditched. And I agree the war criminals from the USA should be shipped off; I haven't looked, but I think I know who's on the list. Fat chance of it happening though, so it's best to focus on remaking the future. It will take a while. But I certainly agree about the war criminals.

But we can't lump American leaders and bureaucrats all together and call it American foreign policy. It's the Bush babies who are primarily (if not totally) responsible for the crimes. It's up to Americans to vote in leaders who properly represent us, not just to say America is inherently evil and should do nothing.

Under Trump though, there's probably no chance of such an international coalition acting to free Syria from the monster. Absent that, we'll have to tolerate what Russia, Iran and Turkey decide to do. The vaccuum will be filled one way or another.

The Kurds are our allies, and we depended on them to defeat the IS. Now they are being attacked by the Turkey tyrant. I think we owe them something.