05-07-2018, 12:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2018, 12:59 PM by Eric the Green.)
(04-25-2018, 11:11 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(04-25-2018, 09:37 AM)David Horn Wrote:(04-24-2018, 05:45 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: ... Speaking of the past, here's a article. It makes sense for us that were "there", but lots of lessons have been forgotten.
My one run-in with the FBI involved my knowledge of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn (for the record, I had none). My problem with them, and most other hype-zealots, is their intense focus on one aspect of a problem to the total exclusion of everything else. Yes, the US has a lot of really bead actions to account form but, on balance, the world in general is even worse. Fixing the US, if that's even possible, needs to account for that too.
Hype-zealots: I'm thinking of antifa here. I'm betting the long term fate of antifa is pretty much the same as for Weather Underground. Antifa plays into neo-nazis by assuring the neo-nazis press play. Antifa also alienates more moderate folks as well.
Black lives matter has a few problems as well. The call for reparations will go nowhere without making a huge mess of things. One only has to look at Zimbabwe and now South Africa as well. Of course, racism should be addressed not only for fairness, but social stability. The war on drugs needs to stop, just blowing off poor folks of all races needs to stop, etc. Environmental justice is also a good idea. It's insane that we're not nation building here. Isn't that a "national security interest" ?. It should be. Fix places like New Orleans and Flint first. There are lots of poor folk stuck in polluted neighborhoods because they don't matter, but the largest tax payer is the local oil refinery. Local government won't do squat when that happens. East Houston has lots of folks getting poisoned by benzene emissions.
... What was old , is new again. It's getting so weird. We have Trump, but I haven't heard anyone do a retrospective of the 2T and how it relates to what's going down now. The big picture is lacking.
It's evident that many civil rights issues from the 2T are back, and are being incited by Trump and the alt right. So that's one way in which the new movements, concerns, ideas and discoveries from the 2T are coming up to get more resolved (I hope) in the 4T, just as the theory says they should. The environment is another such issue. Climate change, environmental racism, loss of habitat for species, pollution problems like runaway plastic in the oceans, acid rain and dumping of coal ash; these and more remain to be resolved from the 2T ideal of ecology awareness, dramatized so well on Earth Day 1970. The dangers of extremist 2T radicals may be returning too, if you are right Rags.
I'm not so sure about that, but it's clear that starting in 1964 with the 2T, we entered the era we are still in, with our country divided along the same lines as were drawn then. The revival of 19th century trickle-down economics by Goldwater and his leading advocate and later president Ronald Reagan has dominated politics since the late 2T, so in our 4T we must decide whether to jettison it and return to a neo-New Deal like approach, or continue down our current road to banana republic and upstairs-downstairs status. And in foreign policy, the questions left over from Vietnam about how and whether to police the world remain as well. Whether today's terrorism methods that now threaten safety in The West descend from the terrorist groups from the late 1960s and 1970s (e.g. the PLO attack on the Olympics, the Red Guards of Italy, etc.) is another question.
And the culture wars are not entirely over. Not only do diversity issues still linger, with many approaching resolution and left victory, while others remain, but the war on drugs begun in the 2T along with the marijuana and LSD revolutions, with some left victories for legalizations there as well, are continuing the resolution of 2T issues. Also, whether resurgent materialism and scientism among millennials, such as those working with and censoring wikipedia, has stalled the psychedelic, occult and spirituality consciousness movement from the sixties, and swept it all back under the rug for another generation or two, or whether now there is resurgent interest in alternative spirituality and consciousness expansion today, as well as new interest in psychedelics, or whether it all must await the next 2T, is all still unresolved.