Orion's Arm timeline

[Eric the Green]

(09-18-2018, 06:08 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:

(09-18-2018, 12:49 AM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: Bill the Piper, I have looked at Orions Arm from time to time.  You may also be interested in the Future Timeline forums.  Or the YouTube videos of Kurzgesagt, or Isaac Arthur.

Funny, I did once post in the Future Timeline forums, and I was flamed for mentioning the S-H theory. What I wrote was that there will be an awakening around 2050s, and that the new idealists will rebel against millennial social media craze, probably embracing some sort of nature-oriented ideology. So, while for Eric the Green I'm too technology obsessed, for the FT blokes  I wasn't technology obsessed enough!

Eric the Green Wrote:Spirituality and transcendental consciousness movements have traditionally not fared well during 4Ts and 1Ts, when according to the S&H model nomad and civic generations are most prominent. So it's not unexpected that new age movements have faded in popularity as the 4T deepens.

There are two corollaries to this, however. The first is that it will return to prominence once the artist and prophet generations return to prominence. It will not matter what the failures of older awakenings were; the need will be stronger than ever.

I agree, but why should the new idealists go back to boomer spirituality? Did the boomers go back to missionary spirituality?
I expect the 2T to be a completely new thing, only with some core elements, like interest in the inner space of the human heart/soul, or love for nature, which have been constant since the Romantic era. Also, the new idealists will probably have a strong connection with the Cosmos, just like OA editors predict. By 2050, we will have proofs of life on other planets, even if this means bacteria on Mars or a few scattered signals from 61 Virginis, it will still make them view themselves as parts of a cosmic community of living beings.

Boomer spirituality had much in common with Missionary spirituality. Really though, we're talking 2T to 2T, without restricting this to generations; especially including also the Silents and Progressives. Late wave civics were also involved. New Age and New Thought have much in common, and New Age descends from Theosophy, which is from the Third Great Awakening (1886-1908) (aka the social gospel awakening). Experiments with communes and freer lifestyles and drug experimentation was a feature of that awakening, as it was of the Consciousness Revolution. The Third Great Awakening was also very powerful in Europe, and the art styles of Art Nouveau, post-impressionism and Symbolism are foundational to psychedelia. The back to nature movement was strong and so was the crafts movement in the third great awakening. These returned in our last 2T, as well as having been foundational to the romantic and transcendentalist era 2T. Pop music styles were different, but the later rock styles of the 60s were founded on the earlier ragtime, blues and jazz ones of the 00s. Freedom of expression, including sexually, always expands in 2Ts, and as one historian noted, social and lifestyle freedoms once gained, are never lost in the long run.

The conservation movement was founded in the USA in the 1890s and 1900s, and was in turn the foundation for the environmentalist movement and the Green Party, both founded during the Consciousness Revolution. It looks like your forecast on FT forums is spot on with what I predict. The alpha-wave prophets will rebel against the virtual, tech-bound world and seek to recover the natural world and its ways. My indications are that especially the love of nature and the sensitivity of European art styles like those of the 1880s and 90s will be prominent. I call this next Awakening era the Green Revolution; my reading of the astrological cycles indicates clearly that the next awakening will fulfill the previous one in every way. I agree with more connection to the cosmos, and in the 2T this notion will extend beyond conventional science views to a revival of the previous 2T and 3T's interest in the ETs already visiting us. Awareness of the science that breaks though established materialist paradigms, so prominent in the New Age Movement, will be extended and brought into the light again. Wikipedia and many millennials may be able to suppress it on the internet now in this 4T, but that can't happen in an Awakening.

On the social-political level, there was more difference, but also much in common. The identity politics of civil rights, black power, feminism, gay rights, in the mid/late 1960s all broke through the Jim Crow era, which had remained intact during the 3rd great awakening; except that feminism took right off from where it flourished before. The social gospel populism that was later enshrined in the New Deal 4T was further fulfilled in the 2T Great Society. Strikes were more common than usual in both eras, but labor declined later in the counter-awakening of the Consciousness Revolution. So while rights movements were stronger in the 60s/70s 2T, labor and social legislation, while initially as strong as before, suffered reversals from the conservative counter-awakening--- which was stronger this time, from Goldwater to Reagan. In the third great awakening social gospel era, the same conservative reaction also came in the 1920s, on both scores; but only took hold once the 3T actually had already begun.

In the next 2T I also expect another drive toward a "great society" in which forgotten people rise up and are given new opportunities, and that this will be a worldwide trend this time. The environmental movement will be extended and brought even more to a community level. I already see labor being transformed starting in the current 4T, as computers and robots and free trade are making labor as we knew it obsolete, which also means the Republican anti-welfare trickle-down theories will also be outdated, and redistribution of wealth will be back in vogue instead of put down. Much change along these lines will happen in the next 2T as well. Meanwhile, the counter-awakening of the Jesus movement and the moral majority brought back the traditional authoritarian great awakenings of past 2Ts. So this might be expected again in the 2050s as well.

What we see is continuation and building off of previous awakenings throughout history, skipping from 2nd turning to 2nd turning, and the forgetting of it in 4Ts and 1Ts except for its most traditional and authoritarian or reactionary expressions, along with some degree of fulfillment of 2T social movements in institutional 4T changes. If lifespans are longer in the future, I expect more spirituality and idealism throughout all turnings. Materialism and reaction already continues without interruption through awakenings and unravellings, because we are a materialist society; so the only real change because of longer lifespans in America will be that 2Ts are more continuous through all turnings! Some Boomers like me will continue to keep the spirit alive through this 4T and into the 1T.