09-21-2018, 05:26 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-21-2018, 06:21 AM by Bill the Piper.)
(09-20-2018, 01:25 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Got a source?
I'm the author. But I used intuition rather than rigorous research. There should be a test to accompany that, some day I have to write one.
Your post has been a valuable contribution to developing this system.
Quote:It would be interesting to see where some historical figures of politics from early-modern times to now -- Oliver Cromwell, Samuel Adams, Washington, Jefferson, Robespierre, Napoleon, Garibaldi, Juarez, William II, Gandhi, Adenauer, Trotsky, Churchill, FDR, Franco, de Gaulle, Khomeini, Deng Xiaoping, Reagan, Kennedy, Mandela, Thatcher, M L King, Gorbachev, Saddam Hussein. Havel and Qaddafi fit. Or is this only for 20th century and later figures?
I don't know enough about many of those people. I feel that most mediaeval societies would be close to blue-black border, since there was a close relationship between the church and the warrior aristocracy. 18th century revolutionaries would be like yellow, purple and red combined together. So it's mostly for 20th and 20st century.
Gandhi - purple on economics, but black on culture (like a Hindu version of Christian democracy)
Trotsky - red, close to purple border.
Churchill - probably black close to yellow border (an old school Tory)
FDR - purple on economics, yellow on culture (typical pre-boomer Progressive)
Franco - blue, close to black border
Khomeini - extreme black like bin Laden, but slightly closer to blue as an Iranian nationalist
Reagan and Thatcher - as yellow as you can get,
Saddam Hussein - blue (he was an Arab nationalist)
Qaddafi - blue, but somehow closer to black border than Saddam
M L King - purple
Mandela - centrist blue, closer to red border
Quote:What would someone near the center of the pentagon be like?
A wish-wash centrist. Perhaps something like the Eurocrats, who have no cohesive ideology other than keeping the structure their predecessor have built.
Quote:I am tempted to believe that people might be extremely traditionalist on some values and either counter-cultural or 'communist' on economics.
I've already mentioned Black-Purple hybrids. There used to be a cult called Aristasia. They mixed hardcore traditionalism with radical 1970s-style feminism and boomer variety of socialism. That would be an extremist of Black-Purple hybrid.
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