Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure

[Bob Butler 54]

(10-15-2018, 07:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(10-14-2018, 10:54 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(10-14-2018, 08:22 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Hmmm...This may have something to do with the reason why Reds don't take Blues very seriously, why they don't want the Blues to ever be the ones in power and why Reds don't view Blues as genuine people who actually care about other people as much as they seem and often claim to care about the people BELOW them. Well, I'm a reddish who isn't that much below you or all that much above you at this point in our lives. This could also be the reason the two if us are rarely on the same page, rarely understanding where each other's at and misunderstandings relating to differences with values and worldviews.

Few, even among those who lean blue, will explore world views as gleefully as I do.

But what you see often from reds is just tribal thinking.  Red leaners just do not emphasize as much with people who are not like them, are not of the same tribe.  People who think a certain way, people they call Americans, sure.  All men are created equal?  Care as much about one guy as the next?  That is a more blue ideal.  Reds just do not follow.

I see that you're able to use people, switch characters, perform roles and use their  world views as much as you are able to use ideals and values associated with other people too. You do realize that  all men are created equal was written by a slave owner who's wife wasn't viewed as an equal  either.

Of course.  You do know the root word of progressive?  You do know how many times values have turned over since then?  You know how many times conservatives have been shown wrong by new values standards at least?

Morality evolves.  What is acceptable by the old values from before the crisis is not acceptable by the new.  There is a valid arrow of progress, which though the Industrial Age has pointed towards more rights, more equality, more democracy, and better integration with new technology.  Always, conservatives cling to privilege and are wrong in doing so.  

Of course, I am seeing a new age.  The patterns that held in the Industrial Age may not hold in the new.  I kind of hope they will.