(10-24-2018, 11:50 PM)Teejay Wrote:(10-22-2018, 07:19 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: Does Trump have any Idealist traits? I don't think so. His bully-style masculinity, hedonism and lack of interest in moral or spiritual issues seems Reactive to me. He is sort of Xer born too early. Actual boomers seem to despise him, while he is more popular among Xers.
Vladimir Putin and the autocrat of Belarus, Aleksandr Lukashenko have very similar traits despite having been born in the early 1950s.
Trump is definitely a Prophet, he is very much like Mussolini (1883) another Idealist from the European generation of 98' (Euro Missionaries, with their last cohort being around 1886-1887). I would argue to his supporters he is their Grey Champion, which explains a lot of the attitudes they exhibit.
My Boomer mother and best her friend aren't spiritual at the least, however they are still very idealistic and see themselves as being very principled. Myself as a quite late wave Nomad is much more pragmatic and realistic.
Howe and Strauss put Mussolini in the Lost Generation with most fascists. He was never a man of high principle, going from one political fad (socialism) to another (militant nationalism) until putting together his fascism. He was utterly amoral, and it is likely that he believed in little but himself and vague ideas of reviving the Roman Empire. Howe and Strauss use 1882 and 1883 as a divide, probably so that he could place FDR (born January 30, 1882) as an idealist.
1882 births include some thoroughly nasty people:
Brazilian dictator Getúlio Vargas, born April 19, fascistic dictator.
Conducator (Romanian equivalent of "Fuehrer" or "Duce") Ion Antonescu, born June 14, executed for crimes against humanity, including perpetration of the Holocaust, while dictator.
Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel, born September 22, and executed by hanging on October 16, 1945 for his responsibility in horrific war crimes involving making the German Army the Nazi Army.
Maybe the right split is between January and February of 1882.
Not at all troublesome: Igor Stravinsky, whose music and lifestyle are clearly Nomadic, was born on June 5.
It could be that the eruption of August 26, 1883 had some effect on very young infants and upon children born some time later.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.