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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(11-04-2018, 06:08 AM)Galen Wrote: The Jim Crow agenda was an unfortunate consequence, one of many, from the compromise of allowing slavery to continue after the American Revolution.  I am not a big fan as you might imagine since involuntary servitude is not something libertarians are in favor of.  This forms the basis of the libertarian view of taxation as theft.

The Founding Fathers on the whole, Alexander Hamilton is an exception, could be considered in modern terms to be Minarchist Libertarians.  Murray Rothbard's Conceived In Libery covers this evolution toward individual liberty from Colonial Times to the early Federalist period.  Their agenda was to create a government that was limited in power which was an unheard of idea in the eighteenth century.

Modern liberals and progressives are not and never have been in favor of individual liberty.  The battle always has and always be between liberty and tyranny.

But as I see it, liberty should not get in the way of human rights.  Robber Barrons thus should not get in the way of food, shelter, health care, retirement and other basic rights supposedly guaranteed in the UN Declaration of Human Rights.  Thus, so long as the absurd division of wealth exists side by side with a denial of rights, this progressive for one can scream.

Democracy can take it further.  The poor generally have more votes than the rich.  Again, I think democracy too should be limited by the rights of the individual.

And rights do not guarantee the right to harm another.    Your right to swing your fist around ends where my nose begins.  There is no right to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater.  There is no right to insult and demean minorities.  Too often some people abuse the concept of liberty out of a desire to harm others.

When you embrace this view, freedom and rights become natural and often benign enemies.  Government exists to secure rights among people, among other reasons.

But not a bad summary of some basics.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by Bob Butler 54 - 11-04-2018, 10:28 AM

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