11-11-2018, 01:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2018, 01:44 PM by Bob Butler 54.)
We seem tp have two people who want and are pushing for different things. To some extent, they speak for the many, and they represent the demonization, the speaking past each other.
Many on both the libertarian and red fronts will speak of freedom. As much as possible, the government should do as little as possible to not limit the freedom of the people. Freedom can easily be treated as a virtue. To a good extent freedom is something to be sought, something that many seek.
Freedom does not guarantee the ability to harm others. Freedom ends as soon as you might hurt another. In Pbower's road example, no one is proposing an end to the right to travel. Some will advocate an to attempt to travel safely. The federal, state and local governments that have built and maintained roads have also attempted to police them. They try to prevent among other things speeding, the running of traffic lights, and driving under the influence. In general, they correctly limit the freedom of travel to prevent folks from driving irresponsibly, from doing harm to others.
In general, I can advocate both things in spite of the apparent conflict. Freedom is good. It is right to limit the ability of the government to restrict or to harm anybody. If government restricts, raise a red flag. I would lower the flag however when you can see possible harm to others. It is correct for government to attempt to limit harm to its people.
It is also possible to work for the general welfare. They are supposed to be doing just that.
And I would attempt to do this while minimizing demonization. I would not paint someone advocating either freedom or the prevention of harm with a harsh brush. It is possible to recognize the noble intent of what other extremists are trying to advocate.
Yet, we are in the habit of demonizing. In the Industrial Age, violence was generally necessary to resolve conflicts. This may no longer be the case, but here we are painting those who disagree as the enemy. We are doing nigh on as much as we can to treat them as the enemy, to justify the use of murder against them. We are seeing too much violence. We should stop.
Many on both the libertarian and red fronts will speak of freedom. As much as possible, the government should do as little as possible to not limit the freedom of the people. Freedom can easily be treated as a virtue. To a good extent freedom is something to be sought, something that many seek.
Freedom does not guarantee the ability to harm others. Freedom ends as soon as you might hurt another. In Pbower's road example, no one is proposing an end to the right to travel. Some will advocate an to attempt to travel safely. The federal, state and local governments that have built and maintained roads have also attempted to police them. They try to prevent among other things speeding, the running of traffic lights, and driving under the influence. In general, they correctly limit the freedom of travel to prevent folks from driving irresponsibly, from doing harm to others.
In general, I can advocate both things in spite of the apparent conflict. Freedom is good. It is right to limit the ability of the government to restrict or to harm anybody. If government restricts, raise a red flag. I would lower the flag however when you can see possible harm to others. It is correct for government to attempt to limit harm to its people.
It is also possible to work for the general welfare. They are supposed to be doing just that.
And I would attempt to do this while minimizing demonization. I would not paint someone advocating either freedom or the prevention of harm with a harsh brush. It is possible to recognize the noble intent of what other extremists are trying to advocate.
Yet, we are in the habit of demonizing. In the Industrial Age, violence was generally necessary to resolve conflicts. This may no longer be the case, but here we are painting those who disagree as the enemy. We are doing nigh on as much as we can to treat them as the enemy, to justify the use of murder against them. We are seeing too much violence. We should stop.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.