Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure

[Eric the Green]

(11-17-2018, 10:28 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-16-2018, 01:19 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: No, it is just as I said. Reform was made, gerrymandering was not done by the Democrats in CA, AZ and PA, but districts were drawn by independent commissions, which allowed people to vote for their politicians instead of vice versa. You can't tell a reform from a partisan gerrymander, and a legal recount from law-breaking. You vote to keep big money considered as free speech, and thus keep our politicians locked into special interests. 

You forget again that I myself am quite willing to separate from your red states, if that's what the people want to do, and that I would not join or support a war to keep you in the union if you want to leave, and that I might support such a war if it's us blues who want to leave and you reds who want to impose your red regime upon us. How many times do I need to say this, so you don't have to keep repeating your threat to separate from us blues, since I regard it as a promise and not a threat?

I'm already separated from the blues. I live in a purple area.

Except that most suburbs are turning blue now, and will stay blue as long as the red side is as far off the rails as it is now.

In any case, an actual separation won't be able to be made in such detail. It will have to be states breaking away, or at least major contiguous portions of states. Every major city will not be able to separate from its suburbs and/or its rural surrounding areas. Minnesota leans blue, and so might join a confederation of great lakes states with Illinois and Michigan and maybe others if it doesn't want to be part of the new Dixie redneck Heartland. To be part of your new red America, you might have to move to the Dakotas.

Myself, I dream of being part of a new continguous Canada. It would be a strange configuration too, where the Pacific Coast states and Hawaii would join up with the Pacific northwest of Canada, and the states in the industrial mid-west and east bordering on Canada and the Great Lakes over to the mid-Atlantic East Coast all joined to Canada as well. Northern Virginia, once home to Robert E Lee and George Washington, would separate from Southern Virginia and join the new federation, perhaps still headquartered in DC. A cross country trip would have to go all the way up the coasts and then over the top of Montana and the Dakotas to reach the current North-Eastern USA. Alaska is already separated from the other states, so it could stay red or just become independent, and Hawaii might do that as well. In effect the blue states would trade away the red states and get Canada instead.