11-21-2018, 05:05 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-22-2018, 05:18 AM by Bob Butler 54.)
(11-21-2018, 04:27 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Bob, if you were able to stop clinging to your interpretation/understanding of Strauss and Howe's theory and quit assuming the outcome will be the same as it was in the past 4T and quit ignoring the advancements we have made since then and the lessons we have learned since then. The Reagan values have taken hold and are staying for good. The progressive values of old are being or have largely rejected and the progressives aren't responding well to its rejection these days. In my opinion, the Obama election represented it's last dying gasp. How many blue voters believed they hit the jack pot? How many American voters found out they didn't matter as much to the blues? How many voted to save their home that was being foreclose and ended up loosing it? How many American voters voted for jobs and ended up being jobless for years or forced to work a few jobs to make up for the job loss? You better get familiar with them because that's who is going to be showing up in large numbers to support Trump and advance the continuation of his policies who are more likely to vote Republican than they were a decade ago. The small blue wave turned purple like I said it would be not so along ago.
We are on a see saw. Trump did flip it. The blue establishment chose the wrong candidate. We came within an inch of overcoming the slave compromises and holding the White House in 2016, but didn't. It is typical extremist thinking to project their own thinking on others, on the majority. You are going to continue it until after the regeneracy, where the last set of values is overturned, when you are left to do nothing but curse "That man in the White House" and fade away.
Maybe. We'll see.
I worry about the rest of the world. My vision of the future requires democracy. In places like China, democracy never took hold, and never might. They lived through an extended bad time, from the Opium Wars through Mao, and very much fear a return to chaos, the evils and suffering of perpetual revolution. The capitalist and political elites are working together now, the former producing the wealth, the latter trimming the worst abuses, the people too fearful to upset the apple cart. Too many folk world wide are accepting this compromise, giving up on the power of the people to demand change.
But the troubles will fade further in the past, and competition with true democracies remains.
Maybe. We'll see.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.