Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure

[David Horn]

(12-19-2018, 01:18 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-19-2018, 08:32 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: A clear good choice.  It does not hide that the now traditional red financial policies, then as now, got us into trouble, that the red economics is messed up.  It just took far less time for Trump to do the same.  Bush 43 still got us in as much trouble as anyone since Hoover.  With two more years of Trump likely, we will see.  That which does not kill us makes the regeneracy closer.

Bush 43 had his deer in the headlights look, but was not as unintelligent as all that.

I think I already know why the standard red script went bad.  Stimulating the economy full time whether things are good or bad is good in the short term, but things blow up in the long term.  I'll still keep an eye out for the HBO special.

It's a VICE documentary. My view, full time Keynesian as we see/ know of today is not good for the entire country. Keynesian is not running on script as far as it was originally intended to be used, Keynesian is supposed to be only used as a temporary fill in during crisis's and hard times. Right now, how many blues are employed or financially supported by Keynesian economics. How many blues are reliant on social programs associated with Keynesian economics? How many people lost homes and experienced financial set backs and hardship because of Keynesian economics? We have two economic systems operating in the country. We have an American system and a Keynesian system. 

I think you misunderstand Keynes.  His argument was less about specific policy and more about keeping the ship on course and upright.  So when a recession occurs, using Keynesian arguments, the government should borrow and spend.  When the private sector is banging, the government should limit spending and raise taxes.  In the first case, public spending compensates for the loss of private activity.  In the second, the government keeps the economy from overheating.  Keynes plays both ways.

C-Xer Wrote:What happened to "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your  country" and what happened to Martin Luther Kings vision along with his ideals for America? Where did they go and who is teaching them these days? In my opinion, we have a blue scourge that's larger and more powerful than the red scourge you're railing about all the time these days. However, I don't believe the blue scourge is powerful enough to overthrow America. I mean, we are just using words right now. I have more powerful things other than words that can be utilized and brought to bear. Think of it this way, I'm just one member of 60 some million members on the American right these days that are active. The 60 some million does not include those who are currently inactive or those who will eventually switch sides and join. Now, this is just my view. You're entitled to stick with your own view and promote your views if you so choose.

What Blue Scourge exactly?  What is happening on the Left that has you so angry?  If it's Antifa, then give me a break.  They're a small disjointed group of zealots with no real power and not all that much activism.  If, on the other hand, its the general drift of society toward a more open acceptance of <insert the  subset of your choice>, then you're fighting against inevitable change.  Winning, even in the short term, is becoming less likely by the day.  If it's the urban/rural thing, then I'm totally baffled.

Here in Virginia, the recent changes in Federal tax law created an unexpected $500 Million state tax windfall.  A statewide survey was taken asking, 'what shall we do with this windfall?':  The options: allow refunds with the Earned Income Tax Credit exceeded the amount of owed tax, and a simple tax refund to all taxpayers.  The poorest counties in the state, where the credit would have had real impact, voted for the refund, which virtually none of them were qualified to get.  In the rich counties, the opposite result occurred.  When asked about it, the voters in the rich counties indicated that they didn't need the money as much as the poorer state residents.  Voters in the poor counties said, the tax refund was a Republican idea and credit was a Democratic idea, so they opposed the credit.