Political compass for the21st century

[Eric the Green]

(03-18-2019, 08:03 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: Now it occurred to me that collapsing it to three basic types (individualists, leftists and traditionalists) plus centre is a better idea.

Counterculture is not a valid political orientation, because it comprises 3 different types:
-non-Abrahamic traditionalists, whose ideal society is something like Avatar. Most New Age types perhaps like our own Eric the Green.
-individualists who aren't obsessed with money. Like Jefferson and most anarchists.
-communists who don't have a thing for class struggle. Like Marcuse and Rousseau.

Nationalism is also not a valid sector, by itself. It should be split into 2 areas:
-leftists for whom national liberation is also more important than class struggle. From Saddam to Che on the extreme side, while Mandela and Polish Solidarity leaders would be the gentlemen of this subsector.
-traditionalists who care for identity and martial values more than for religion. Like Franco and Gaddafi.

So, there should be 3 basic sectors with some subsectors
*Individualists
-libertarians
-anarchists

*Traditionalists
-religious right
-identitarian right

*Leftists
-New Leftists
-Marxists
-progressive nationalists

That seems the right track.

I still think the libertarians have it right by identifying themselves as economic conservatives and cultural liberals. The neo-liberal economic libertarians are quite different from other "individualists who don't care about money". The neo-liberal free-market fundamentalists seem opposite to the socialists and the liberal social-democrats and to some of the Marxists who aren't totalitarians. The neo-liberals turn out to be staunch defenders of the status quo, because they support the corporate and big business wealthy domination of society. They have that in common with the fascists.