04-22-2019, 06:32 PM
(04-22-2019, 11:52 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(04-21-2019, 09:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: What happened in my country was a legal visitor from Australia who entered my country legally who got hold of guns from a place called Gun City. Three of the guns anyway. He was able to modify them all under our laws that allowed him to do this. A man who had done no earlier crimes at all who had been raised in Australia which has a reputation of being racist culturally and politically which clearly had some impact on him to which he agreed and aligned with white supremacy groups and individuals he believes represent the rise of white supremacy. He managed to get hold of these guns here in NZ legally and shoot up those he despises which are Muslims who by the way are here legally. They are legal and have families here. Some who were shot were wee children. This is what happened. He has written much of what I just told you in his manifesto and this is going by facts of what happened here. What needed to happen was tighter regulation on certain guns being allowed to the public which has in fact now happened thankfully as he was able to massacre so many more people in such a short amount of time due to the nature of the guns allowed to him. What we cannot monitor though are people like that who have no background on crime whatsoever but its also beneficial to do a full psychological test on each person who wants a gun just to at least attempt to prevent something like that happening ever again.
So, the horrific action of a foreigner that your government allowed to enter the country and legally purchase firearms was basically used as a valid reason to eliminate a right associated with all citizens of New Zealand. The radical Islamic's who attacked us and killed three thousand of us, some of whom were wee wee children too, entered the country legally too. A fact that our liberal groups, liberal politicians and liberal judges who opposed Trump flat out ignored and refused to take into account prior to a recent travel ban that was imposed on travelers and refuges coming in from certain war torn countries and certain state sponsors of terrorism located within the Middle East.
Terrorism is abominable no matter what the purpose and what the ideological or culture (religion and culture are usually connected. There is absolutely no connection between the Australian nutcase who killed people practicing their religion in a religious service and the mass killers of 9/11 except for the shared inexcusability of their crimes.
As I understand, refugees have a strong stake in good behavior where they end up because their good behavior by our standards put them in harm's way. People leaving countries that sponsor state terrorism? Why would most people leave such states? Could it be that such states are generally brutal to their own subjects? Maybe we can screen such people for untrustworthy people such as people pretending to be refugees but in fact agents of the gangster states that they leave.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.