"Core" vs. "Non-Core" Semi-Generations

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(07-31-2019, 11:41 PM)taramarie Wrote:

(07-31-2019, 12:41 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-31-2019, 10:16 AM)AspieMillennial Wrote:

(11-04-2018, 06:29 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:

(11-03-2018, 09:25 PM)Ghost Wrote: 1977 and 1978 aren't really indisputably X; Newsweek and Post-Bulletin still label them as Millennials and some still believe that they are in the cusp (which probably lasts until 1981 - the last birthyear that has people graduating in the 90's). 

The Business Insider proposes Xennial as a cusp micro-generation between 1977 and 1985. I agree and identify as a Xennial myself.

Quote:1995-2001 is a big Millennial/Z cusp and even that could be outdated nowadays.

Do you think it should be moved forward or backward?

I used to debate it a lot on Personality Cafe. The only thing the 1995 camp had to say was "Internet Explorer was launched in 1995". Well, it didn't have much impact on politics or even daily life, did it? Social media (MySpace) got popular in 2006, so if you were born in 2001 or earlier you have to remember the pre-social Unravelling days. Also, 2006 was the year a civil war broke out in Iraq between the Shias and the Sunnis, which ended the Unravelling optimism about the whole world becoming democratic. In his Decision Points Bush claims this was also the year nativism became popular again. So I say: the crisis started in 2006 and thus it's reasonable to end Millennials in 2001 or even 2003.

I think Xennial is BS because I can't relate to the stuff about Tinder or social justice or infantilizing the world and being easily offended or thinking I was lied to yet I'm core Millennial. Since I'm core Millennial and can't relate to this I can say the cusp is a BS construct that assumes too much about the core. I'm "core Millennial" yet I can't relate to thinking "society" influences your views more than critical thinking whereas others think I am "supposed to" not be able to learn anything on my own or think anything on my own or that I am "supposed to" want to ban everything because I supposedly don't believe in people's abilities to decipher their own information despite whatever "society" says. I hate how the generation police want to force me to think a certain way or that I "should" not be myself because I am "supposed to" copy the group.

You want to have your own generational category because you don't relate to stereotypes. I don't either so what makes you so different? If I am a "core Millennial" yet think this way it means that the category of Xennial is bunk and garbage. Is there something magical in my brain that forces me to think the same as everyone on social media just because my parents had sex in a certain year? Because I often disagree with what others think in all generations and can't relate to any generation in particular. Where is this magical part of my brain? Do tell. It seems like you just want a category to shove others into stereotypes where you get to play the fence.

I think cusps are valid, because an exact border is always fuzzy, and at the crossover times different folks can be more influenced by the upcoming trends than the older ones. They should be narrowly drawn, though, and based on S&H dates and not Pew dates. So I would say
War Baby cusp: c. 1941-45
Jones cusp (BoomerXer): c. 1958-63
Xennials: 1979-85
Gen Y/Z cusp: 2001-2005

The closer to the border one was born, the more of a mixture one is.

Of course no-one fits a stereotype, and the archetype does not fit all people born into it. It's a general trend, which means there are exceptions. But the trend is significant and meaningful. Apsiemillennial is not a typical Millennial, and I am a typical Boomer, but none of that means that the cusps are bunk, or that the generational archetypes are bunk.

In my case, my astrology chart clearly indicates that I identify with my generation. The same can be said for Mr. Howe, whose Moon (heritage, ancestry, family influences, etc) aligns with his Uranus in Cancer (the Moon's ruling sign), and Uranus is the chief generational planet of the saeculum. Myself, I have Uranus exactly rising in Cancer, Mars exactly conjunct Pluto in Leo, and Sun conjunct closely with Neptune in Libra. Personal indicators aligned with generational planets, QED. I would guess Aspiemillennial does not have such alignments.

I actually have to agree with Eric on this one. Note what I highlighted which I agree with. His astrology stuff is woo woo of course, but he makes a valid point that is NOT a box. Meaning it is supposed to be based on COMMON TRENDS. If you are aware of MBTI that ALSO goes by common TRENDS. It never once said that these are tightly packed boxes. But gives a nod to commonalities which show up in history and in a generation born and raised at the same time of a common history. The longer you know of generational theory and MBTI or anything else like this regarding societal trends, the more you will realize this fact. I am an ISFP core millennial who once was concerned I was being boxed in, yet I consider myself an isfp core millennial now because I realize im not being boxed in. It is just there are some commonalities I can identify with which make me one. The shared history being one for being a core millennial. The way I think dominantly for being an isfp. Education on the real reason for these theories and noted ways of thinking will help immensely. Keep studying.

Isn't that why there was a "list of people who were anomalies for their generation" thread?