10-27-2019, 07:10 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2019, 08:13 AM by Bill the Piper.)
(10-24-2019, 05:15 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Whether God exists or not, and thus the basis for a theocracy, is a philosophical question, as well as what free market fundamentalists and communists may share in rationalist self-interest or materialism in general.I redefined theocracy as a government focused on enforcing personal righteousness. This makes it possible to include extreme environmentalists who want us to starve ourselves to "save the planet". They are like traditional theocrats in all aspects save belief in a Sky Father. Some of them consider the Earth to be a literal deity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaianism
Certainly these extreme Greens don't blend well with the Purple Inclusivity meme or with Red Workers' Movement. According to Michael Crichton:
The religion of environmentalism is a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths. There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die, unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right beliefs, imbibe.
Eden, the fall of man, the loss of grace, the coming doomsday---these are deeply held mythic structures. They are profoundly conservative religious beliefs. These are not facts that can be argued. These are issues of faith. Facts aren't necessary, because the tenets of environmentalism are all about belief. It's about whether you are going to be a sinner, or saved. Whether you are going to be one of the people on the side of salvation, or on the side of doom. Whether you are going to be one of us, or one of them
Quote:The Israeli genocide against the Palestinians could not be more clear. They regularly shoot and kill them just for demonstrating. They have invaded and bombed Gaza many times and blockade it in order to starve them to death. Thousands have died. They steal land and water in the West Bank and impose restrictions on them there. Netanyahu is just another thug like Putin. This is all common knowledge. I do not support Israel as long as it elects thugs like Bibi. They need to switch their direction back toward what it was before Bibi, and be willing to make peace and not assert their right to all of Palestine as Bibi does.It would be the world's most incompetent genocide, if the group Israel allegedly wants to exterminate is still extant after 70 years. Gaza is now free from any Israeli settlers, Hamas has absolute power there. How does it use this power? Instead of focusing on its subjects' well-being, it prioritises endless resistance. If the conditions in Gaza and the West Bank were as atrocious as pro-Palestine activists want us to believe, the inhabitants would leave these places for another Arab country like Jordan.
After 70 years of "peace process", do we need another saeculum to say it has failed? The ideal outcome would be of course both Israelites and Palestinians starting to identify as global citizens. Secular citizens of Israel are certainly closer to this ideal than Hamas and Fatah thugs. BTW, Palestinian ethnic identity didn't exist before 1948, the people considered themselves just Arabs. It was invented to make it possible to claim that fighting against Israel is fighting for "national liberation". I think democracy is more important than ethnic self-determination. Israel gives its Arab citizens the right to vote, if all Arabs accepted Israeli citizenship back in 1948 these would never be any "Palestinian people".
Netanyahu is certainly a Nationalist, in general modern Judaism has moved into the Brown zone except for the theocratic Orthodox minority who actually believes in the God of the Torah. But its relatively benign variety of Brown compared to Fatah's or Syria's.