Political compass for the21st century

[Eric the Green]

(11-05-2019, 01:30 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote:

(11-03-2019, 12:08 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: One thing I like to remind you guys of, however. There's very little land in our solar system. Mars is much smaller and could not accommodate the current Earth population, and that's about all there is. If your ambition is to go further, then we will have to break the light barrier. And if we could ever do that, the likelihood is that other ETs have already done that and visited us, as many observers say (but the idea is not admitted in mainstream science because it says the light barrier can't be broken). More than likely, any ability to break the light barrier which we achieve will have been reversed engineered from the ETs.

I see that I reminded you of this on a thread in The Future forum. You conveniently replied with the mainstream science view that the ETs have not visited us. That implies that you also have to discard that mainstream science view too, along with the mainstream science view that the light barrier cannot be broken.

You can create habitats inside asteroids. Such an environment wouldn't allow for an outdoorsy lifestyle, which is kind of sad, but might be overcome if you have lighting bright enough to power photosynthesis inside an asteroid. Possibly the energy will come from nuclear fusion, or even from something more speculative like dark matter/energy.

Once we have this kind of habitat engineering, you don't need FTL to travel to other star systems. Whole communities can travel inside an asteroid living there for generations, until they find a suitable Earth-like planet.

"until they find a suitable Earth-like planet"? Meaning, until they break the light barrier, which if possible at all means the observed ETs visits have really been happening, and so reverse engineering will occur, hence no need to live on asteroids; which I think would only be able to host a few hardy souls who don't care where they live. I don't think there is enough space on or inside asteroids to host a civilization capable or building nuclear fusion plants. It will take too many generations living in a huge spaceship traveling to a planet that may not turn out to be desirable. It all sounds very far fetched indeed to me, and it ignores how much our beautiful planet means to people, and how important it is to save and restore such an exceedingly rare location in this vast cosmos.

I say that the fact that the Earth and Moon appear to be the same size from Earth, that they bear the colors of the most precious and luminous metals in the universe (so that the ancients set their value according to the proportion of their orbits), and that this proportion is based on the sacred number 108, the number of the dodecahedron and the fibonacci proportion, bears unimpeachable witness to the rare value of Planet Earth, the blue marble of the cosmos.

Restoring and saving Earth "trumps" the adventure of space flight as our top priority in our times. We can investigate and research the possibilities of space travel, and we can send men and instruments out there. That's all fine. But we don't deserve, nor can we, move away until we master a sustainable and peaceful existence on Earth in which we care for all its people. We aren't ready to join the galactic federation until we reach maturity and respect the most valuable real estate in the galaxy, Planet Earth. That is our test now in this cycle of civilization. We learn to live together on Earth, or we die. That's the challenge for the next 400 years. Only then will migration to the far distant solar systems and galaxies be permitted for earthlings.

Again, the only barrier that stands in the way of restoring Earth is the convenience and wealth of a few fossil fuel company CEOs, and their political deniers and protectors in the Republican Party. THAT'S IT! That's not enough reason to justify killing off entire species and ecosystems.

Some of you virtual millennials need to take more time out and visit places in Nature, or just enjoy the air on a windy day in a local park. Get in touch with your own body more. Put down your phones and get out from behind your desktops and discover real life.