(01-16-2020, 09:18 AM)Ghost Wrote:(01-15-2020, 11:39 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:(01-15-2020, 09:54 AM)Ghost Wrote:(01-15-2020, 06:43 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: More significantly, five adult generations or parts thereof. The divide between the Millennial and Homeland generations is still murky, but so it was between the GI and Silent generations.
Who knows? The youngest kids today (now in early infancy) might grow up to be Idealists (God forbid, Boomers in style, at least among the dominant ones), especially if the current Crisis resolves quickly and decisively.
There was a time not so long ago when there were five active adult generations (when the GI Generation was hanging on) about fifteen years ago.
I could recall someone on here saying that the GI/Silent division didn't really become pronounced until WWII, where people born in 1924 were able to have ranks in the war and people born in 1925 weren't (was that you?). I added that people born in 1924 were also the last to be in elementary school when Black Tuesday happened, therefore making them the last to have a likely chance to remember it.
Similarly, I don't really think that there was a split (even if it still seemed murky) between Millennials and Homelanders until Pew defined the generations in March 2018, stating that people born in 1996 were the last to have a likely chance of remembering 9/11 due to being at school when it happened and that people born in 1997 and later won't remember 9/11 because of how they weren't at school yet when it happened. I think that the 1996-1997 split is very similar to the 1924-1925 split, not to mention how they have the same Chinese zodiac animals (1924 and 1996 being rat, 1925 and 1997 being ox). Now nearly two years later, the 1996-1997 division is probably the most common divide between Millennials and Homelanders.
'Twas I, but from my memory of Generations. This said, Don Adams (born 1924) seemed more like a Silent and Paul Newman (born 1925) seemed more GI-like.
I do not see 9/11 as a part of a Crisis Era. Too much of what ensued was inconsistent with a Crisis. The Pearl Harbor attack got Americans to cut back on consumption and residential construction (unless housing for war plant workers). Men in all walks of life enlisted for military service, including those with high incomes in sports and motion pictures. Recreational travel practically ceased, and people started buying war bonds. Americans came to accept rationing quickly. The President in 2001 told Americans to do the exact opposite of what FDR told people to do the antithesis of -- travel and go shopping. America went on a binge of speculative investment in real estate that would have been impossible during American involvement in WWII.
A 9/11-style attack in a Crisis Era would get Americans acting as if they were in a full-blown Crisis. Remember: America is in a Crisis mode even if events have not yet been traumatic.
The Crash of 2008 had people fearing an economic meltdown of the sort that began in 1929. But -- Obama first rescued the financial system to prevent anything like a three-year meltdown from going past the sesqui-year duration (the meltdown began in 2007, and not 2008). By rescuing the banks at a stage roughly a year and a half before FDR did he made possible the ability of thye economic elite4s to buy the political process.
We have solved nothing. People broke in 2008 are generally still broke. We have a boom for our elites, and a depression for the rest of us.
I think that Don Adams was born in 1923, not 1924. Or maybe you meant to say Don Knotts, who was born in 1924?
It also depends on other circumstances, as well.
A 1924 born person that has parents born in 1902 and is the firstborn child in his or her family will seem more like a Silent than a GI.
A 1925 born person that has parents born in 1881 and is the last born child in his or her family will seem more like a GI than a Silent.
Either Knotts or Adams would have been an example of a Silent-like parody of GI efficiency, which is what someone like Andy Griffith (1925) was. In the mid-'20's, a GI child could have been born to an adult GI. (Having a teenage parent but becoming a prominent adult in any field is rare).
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.