Political compass for the21st century

[Eric the Green]

(05-16-2020, 08:29 AM)Blazkovitz Wrote:

(05-15-2020, 02:14 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: As I see it, you have four right-wing sectors, and two left-wing ones. Pro-Market is the essence of the right wing today, the most-commonly-held view among Republicans and other right wingers. The nationalists and theocrats are also generally right-wing today, and since statism is repressive, I would call that generally right-wing too.

Maybe there is more diversity of ideas on the right?

Pro-market liberalism can be left-wing as well, e.g. Thomas Jefferson or Bill Clinton. Mises criticised traditional societies quite readily, and supported capitalism because it's more conducive to progress than socialism.

Securitarians can lean towards the working-class left sectors, as do Kim Jong Un and Xi Jin Ping who have a communist background and still appeal to some communist ideas.

Leftist ethos of care can be as repressive as rightist ethos of justice or sanctity. The only non-repressive systems are anarchist ones.

No, there's not. Pro-market is always right wing today. Socialism is an advance on capitalism. In fact, it is more conducive of progress than pro-market ideology is, and is closely aligned with what we call "progressive" today.

I see Pro-Market as the Orange meme on the spiral dynamics curve, which is Uranus in Planetary Dynamics symbolism. So yes, it's more advanced than Blue and Brown, which is the authority in traditional, medieval and early modern societies of the Church (Blue/Jupiter) (your theological sector), and State (Brown/Saturn/statist, your securitarian sector). 

But today, pro-market has become the most basic philosophy of the right-wing. In the European version of the political circle, it is placed at the right-wing per se, and is identified with it. It is social-darwinism applied to economics, whereas fascism is social-darwinism applied to nations and races. Pro-market is the opposite of socialism, which in the European view, is "Left" per se.

Socialism is Neptune/Lemon-colored, and is an advance (=farther out) on Uranus/bourgeois middle-class free-market capitalism. The Inclusivists can be defined as the most-advanced sector, akin to Green/Pluto. Now that all these philosophies are all fully evolved, we can compare them on a circle.

Your circle makes the point of separating out Church from Nationalism (also a more modern ideology), as well as from State, but it is not really a circle, but oblong and exaggerated on the right side. It lacks the ancient metaphysical principle of the axial mundi, the world axis, the up and down pole around which the world turns. In your circle, this axis moves from the bottom to the top left.

Securitarians are only Left when they lean into your next quadrant on the left, the socialist quadrant. They can be left or right, that's right, and that's why they are at the bottom. In the Libertarian circle (Nolan Grid), which is the same as the European circle with the positions switched around, the anarchists are placed at the top, directly opposite the statists. That seems correct to me. 

But pro-market is not anarchism per se. It is libertarian economics, which empowers the corporate state. It is the repression we live under today, post-Reagan. You have put it at the top, but that doesn't change the fact that it is the conservative, right-wing of today, embodied in the "freedom caucus" in the 2010s tea party congress. The pro-market faction is most-noted for using the words "freedom" and "liberty" to deceive the people into supporting their tyranny. But the classical liberal view, as opposed to today's neo-liberalism = pro-market, also emphasized the rights of man and the citizen, the bill of rights, human rights, and that aspect of classical liberalism/Uranus/Orange is found in the upper part of your inclusivist sector, or leaning toward it.

Pro-Market is Orange, but stripped of the Orange traits of classical liberalism. Nationalism is also Neptune/Lemon, because it's collectivist, but stripped of its original liberalism as well, and aligned with fascism. So Orange and Lemon both have their right and left factions. Even Pluto has its left and right factions. It's right-wing expression is extreme statism in its modern form, totalitarianism (which is actually bottom, but more to the right than its left-wing expression), while it's left wing is the Green meme and inclusive.