05-16-2020, 04:51 PM
(05-16-2020, 02:42 PM)Isoko Wrote: To be honest, I really am a sceptic if 9/11 and 2008 were catalyst events. From what I am seeing, it really does like the 2020 Corona virus could very well be a catalyst event if the world economy goes into a great depression...
Honestly, I still think we have just entered it.
I could quibble that you used ‘catalyst’ rather than ’trigger’. You can have lots of catalysts, but generally have only one trigger per major issue of the crisis. (The mid 20th century crisis seemed to be a double, where the economic and military crises could have each had a distinct trigger for the U.S.
I have called September 11 and Bush 43’s subsequent Middle East wars a false regeneracy. September 11 was real enough, but a conservative was in charge and proposed a no-change set of values which both failed and did not lead to the proposed progressive transformation which usually comes. As a result, the proposed values change never happened. Definitely not a trigger. Possibly a catalyst.
Similarly, Obama did not punish the elites for the 2008 financial collapse, and did not recover the people after forcing Obamacare through. Most things he achieved were overthrown by his successor. That would be no transformation too. Again, possibly a catalyst, definitely not a trigger.
Both illustrated there was something very wrong. They both set up Trump as the Buchanan or Hoover bad president who illustrated that the old values did not work any more. This set the stage for the next president to change radically.
The bug could trigger such a values change if the country requires an executive that will follow the science, which is part of the blue agenda debated through the unraveling. The rest of the blue agenda could follows with a blue government that takes hold.
So I’m sort of with you.
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