05-18-2020, 04:24 PM
(05-17-2020, 09:26 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(05-17-2020, 08:06 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(05-17-2020, 07:41 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Bob we've had this discussion before. You are a Whig Historian and as such fall subject to the facilities they are susceptible to. I'm sure that had Hitler won the war you'd have argued that the Jew Bolsheviks and or Jew Capitalists would have had to go too.
Nope. That's part of your fantasies. I have for a long time favored the three Enlightenment virtues of human rights, democracy and equality. [understatement] Hitler didn't exemplify those qualities. [/understatement] As soon as the adjective Jew was applied, you go against equality specifically.
Hardly you have admitted in the past to being a Whig historian. That isn't a fantasy.
As for equality I do not actually believe that people are equal. Are we all equally tall? No. Equally smart? No. Each individual is supposedly unique and thus differently gifted and as such equality is a pipe dream at best.
Regarding democracy I'm fine with a republic having democratic institutions so long as those with the votes are those who pay the taxes. Otherwise there will come a time when the unenlightened and and property-less will discover that they can vote themselves the property of others.
I'm fine with human rights so long as it is limited to life, liberty and the pursuit of property.
Government by those who have economic or institutional power is feudal if with low technology and fascist if with high technology. Neither is democratic.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.