"Climax" year of each turning

[Isoko]

(05-21-2020, 07:46 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(05-17-2020, 09:26 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: You have admitted in the past to being a Whig historian.  That isn't a fantasy.  

I have three ways of looking at history, Ages, Turnings and Civilization.  Ages assumes progress.  They go from Hunter Gatherer to Agricultural to Industrial to Information.  Turnings as originally presented focused on the American series of crisis, how with Turnings you move from the Agricultural Age to the Industrial Age.  For three plus turnings the slavery compromises hold the culture fairly firm, then you hit the heart of the crisis and wham.  Thus, they too show a form of progress.  The Civilizations just allow various parts of the world to do this at a different pace.

Some try to deny or stop the progress.  Often times during the unravelling it seemed they had succeeded.  Without the ability to look back at previous unravellings, previous times of hedonism, stagnation, politics, compromises, debate and acrimony, it would be hard to see how things were going to break loose.

In many ways the bug is painful.  But in certain ways I am glad the crisis heart is finally here.  I get to sit back in my enforced isolation and watch the people who have fought change not know what hit them.

In my own honesty, I think that the next Awakening is going to be more centre-right if anything. Birth rates are going down, immigration into Western societies is driving them apart and leftist values continually push the West down the Sodom and Gomorrah road. I think that the current millennials will defend the status quo but the next Awakening will see what is failing in society and attempt to rectify it in their own image.

The complete opposite I think is at stake for the eastern countries as their awakening seems to be focused on old school capitalism and human rights. I suspect China, Iran, Russia etc will go down more of a liberal path potentially.