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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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(06-07-2020, 09:26 AM)User3451 Wrote: 2015 leading into 2016 was clearly 4T

It may be that the 3T went longer, and also that the 4T is shorter.

Even if one argues that the reaction to 2008 was 3T, the 4T is well underway by the time Trump rolled into the Republican primaries.

The rise of Bernie and the fall of Hillary are both very clearly 4T as well

It's a near certainty that society transitions in stages, based on one's POV and position in the current turning.  That would be especially true of any 3T, where inequality is part and parcel of the turning.  I would argue that the capitalists still think they are in a 3T, with a stock market tied to nothing rational as far as I can see. The rest of us have already moved on.  If the next election has mixed results, that could continue until the market crashes on its own.  

It's easier to accept change if it's not to your personal determent.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by David Horn - 06-07-2020, 09:48 AM

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