I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008

[User3451]

(06-08-2020, 05:05 PM)sbarrera Wrote:

(06-08-2020, 01:31 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(06-08-2020, 01:22 PM)User3451 Wrote: As I've thought about it recently, the regeneracy happened right in front of our noses: the rise of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are very clearly the regeneracy. This regeneracy has two different poles.

I'd disagree.  In the regeneracy, the new values get pretty much crushed by a progressive group taking over with clean backing from the people.  Between COVID and the protests this could finally happen.

Two people holding opposite points of view is very 3T.  It may have been 4T by generation alignment, but the pre trigger crisis is just an extension of the 3T with bigger catalysts.

A two pole regeneracy is a civil war. Which might be where we are - the blue state has the numbers and the red state has the weaponry.

Yep. A cold civil war.