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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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(06-28-2020, 04:02 PM)Mikebert Wrote: Trigger is the term often used in the T4T discussion site to refer to the catalyst. They mean the same thing, or at least I used the word in that sense.

I remember the distinction.  Many catalysts.  One trigger per crisis heart.  If you persist in forgetting the distinction, you are being sloppy and creating confusion.

(06-28-2020, 04:02 PM)Mikebert Wrote: If you think that the problems perceived by the BLM movement, by the Occupy movement, by the Poor People’s Campaign etc. can be solved without taking on the excess elites and the inequality that breeds them, you are in for a rude awakening.

I hope you are right.  I have just been infected by people who are being disappointed in advance by Biden.  He is more an establishment make no waves sort of guy than the advocate of change that would do what he can through the crisis.  It could be that once he has a Democratic congress, and if he can work around the need for 60 votes in the senate to pass anything, that the obstructionism of the Republicans will end, he might implement the whole blue agenda.  It could be that his VP will have the needed amount of fire for change.

But so far the Democrats have run against the senate obstruction, that even the most popular public opinion on respecting minorities and COVID does not slow down the obstructionism.  The regeneracy is being blocked.  This could easily change, but until it starts to change I am not going to say it has changed.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Bob Butler 54 - 06-28-2020, 07:04 PM

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