Political compass for the21st century

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(05-22-2020, 05:34 AM)Blazkovitz Wrote:

(05-21-2020, 02:16 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(05-21-2020, 04:54 AM)Blazkovitz Wrote:

(05-20-2020, 05:37 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Information age proletarian or socialist also includes democratic socialist movements like that of Bernie Sanders and the Scandinavian countries. Bernie borrowed a lot of the Occupy rhetoric, or else Occupy borrowed from Bernie who had been saying the same things for 40 years or more prior to Occupy. These are less strictly socialist movements that don't advocate an entirely socialist economy, but a mixed one. Bernie's movement is a lot more significant than the "Venus Project," which I have never heard of.

Bernie started his political career in the 1960s, so he would be somewhere between the two layers of Red. Same for Corbyn.

Maybe, but I don't think "Occupy" and an internet group are sufficient definitions of the top layer of red. Occupy was apolitical and thus had little lasting influence, and internet groups are not meaningful IMO. So the top layer must in fact be socialism as implemented in the sixties and 70s and since then in Europe (socialist parties and governments in Scandinavia and Western Europe) and in left movements in the USA then; the New Left and folks like Bernie Sanders.

Everybody who focuses on economic equality above all is Red.

In 1960s-70s European groups are the top layer, then national liberation movements of the same decades are the top layer as well. People like Mandela, Wałęsa (pronounced Vavensa, if you trust Forvo) and Chavez are the Information Age layer of Red.

Don't trust forvo. It's V

Bernie is a social democrat and far, far from a socialist. He's about as radical as roads and public scools