07-28-2020, 01:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2020, 01:37 PM by Eric the Green.)
(07-28-2020, 12:03 PM)Einzige Wrote:(07-28-2020, 11:14 AM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: I recall an old thread of the paleo 4T site. It compared the intensities of different Awakendings. Yes, one would expect any Awakening to be intense, but some were more intense than others.
Comparing American 2Ts, among the more intense were the Transcendental and Boom 2Ts. That colonial era 2T (don't recall the name of it) was less intense than those two, with the Missionary Awakening being even less intense.
As for the Great Power saeculum, why would it be deemed a Mega-Awakening? Which turning other than the 2T-which wasn't that intense for a 2T-reminds one of an Awakening? Does the Gilded Age remind one of an Awakening?
I expect that a Mega-Awakening would feature a 2T at least as intense as the Boom Awakening. I would expect that either the 1T would have rather interesting to offer. Possibly a renaissance of sorts. As for 3T, at least a strong spiritual afterglow in early Unraveling.
The 2T of a Mega-2T wouldn't be as emotionally intense as the Boom Awakening necessarily if it were Apollonian in character. The Missionary Awakening was not emotionally intense, but it was intellectual in character. It focused far less on personal values and more on big social ideas than the Boom.
I consider the whole Great Power saeculum a 2T because it introduced new concepts like unionism, socialism and anarchism to the American scene which the mainstream of American life continues to define itself against. And I consider the whole of the Millennial saeculum an Unraveling because we have spent virtually all of it fighting against those Great Power saeculum ideas, first in the Cold War and then in the reactionary period following it. This entire epoch has been reactionary with respect to the Great Power's new anti-capitalist viewpoints; the coming Megacrisis will probably compel their adoption in the Megahigh of the 22nd century.
A Mega-2T would have to feature an intense Awakening, just as you consider the mega-3T to have a longer and more characteristic 3T.
The socialist era is the second revolution of modern times. It began before the civil war, but expanded during the great power awakening or missionary awakening.
However, an unravelling is not a period in which the people (or "we" as you put it) fight against the previous Awakening. Although I admit that among Generation X, there was a strong tendency to do that. Nevertheless, archetypally the unravelling is a period in which the ideas of the Awakening are fought over and further developed. It is not a period only of resistance to the previous turning.
And our saeculum has not spent all its energy fighting against socialism and socialist-anarchism. In its 2T, it expanded social government to a large degree in the Great Society, and saw the birth of movements as significant as those of the previous saeculum: principally the green movement and environmentalism, upon which all of our future society must be based, but also the ideal of ending war, and a much greater dedication to respecting diversity and freedom among races, genders and religions. John Lennon's song kind of summed it up, he being a member of the visionary war-baby group that includes Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden.
Our era seems like a mega unravelling to Generation X because our unravelling was long and our 4T is mild. But this was entirely due to astrology and the planetary cycles, and to major sudden catalytic events. A Uranus-Pluto conjunction can't be denied. It disrupts and transforms. So when it happened between 1963 and 1969, it cut the strong 1T off at only 18 years, starting with JFK's sudden death. The following 2T during this conjunction was so intense that it was burned out toward the end and only lasted 20 years. And the previous 4T ended too soon because of Hitler's western invasion in December 1944, so the entire saeculum began too early. The cycle is just slowing down and catching up, that's all. The saeculum must be about 82-84 years, because the planetary returns that define it won't be denied. So we won't be through with this one until after the Uranus Return in 2027.
A true mega 2T would also strongly emphasize new spiritual movements and new religions. These did occur in the missionary awakening, as they do in all awakenings. But the rest of the saeculum was very materialist and outward oriented. You can't make that into a mega-awakening just by saying a revolutionary movement occurred. Revolutionary movements define the entire modern age, not one saeculum. The Consciousness Revolution 2T brought in the spiritual and holistic new age culture, which is the basis for all the counter-cultures and cultural creatives that will continue to develop in our new world civilization.
Just because Generation X has been so unusually cynical and resentful of Boomers, does not erase what has been born. But Generation X now needs to fulfill its role as pragmatic managers of the crisis, and help the other generations put our new saeculum on a sound and sustainable basis. It can only do that by accepting and working with the Awakening ideas of the Consciousness Revolution, the Green Revolution and the Green New Deal. It can't be based on Reaganomics, nor on its Marxist opposite alone. And Generation X can also recall its own spiritual awakening in the circa 1990 period, and build its spiritual life and feeling of communion on it. No new civilization today can be based on materialism/physicalism, because it denies the source of all life. All civilizations that are sustainable must be based on spirit.
Socialism depends on an industrial civilization with industrial workers, and is a scheme for the workers to take it over. We are now in a post-industrial, ecologically-based civilization. This began in the sixties, and so did the Information Age. Nuclear war since 1945 has also made great power wars obsolete. All this sets our era apart from that which saw the growth of socialism. Its ideals are still valuable and sound, as are those of individual rights, freedoms and democracy. The new green synthesis includes and transcends these two earlier modern movements. The Green New Deal is the way forward now. It must be increasingly adopted in the coming century. Those who are truly "woke" like Ms. AOC understand all this.