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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
A couple of threads discuss the double rhythm theory.

Click on Old Fourth Turning Posts, then click on The Fourth Turning Archive. Scroll to the bottom and click on the link. The thread titles:

1. The Alternating Paradign Theory (APT)

2. The Two Lifetime Cycle

The second is a shorter thread, so I suggest starting with it.

BTW, in an archived thread, The Next Pandemic, I suggested that this 4T would have a biological component. That was some time before I heard of coronavirus. But there were other nasty bugs out there, such as Ebola.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Tim Randal Walker - 08-04-2020, 12:07 PM

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