(07-26-2016, 02:15 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(07-26-2016, 02:03 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I don't know if what Schultz said translates into actual votes denied or stolen. You can only cheat so far. Hillary won by a wide enough margin that it doesn't matter.
It suffices to say that if no thumbs were on the scale the results would have been different.
Quote: Bush won by 537 official votes, and we remember that Harris actually refused to count the recount in Palm Beach County, which reduced that margin. And the Supreme Court stopped the state recount. The point is, cheating probably happened in FL 2000, but it only mattered because the election was razor-thin close. The 2016 primary was not. The 2008 primary was much, much closer.
No disagreement there. That election was stolen.
Quote:Changing the subject. OK. Mostly it was the Europeans who helped the Libyans in their revolution to overthrow Qaddafi. The USA did some bombing raids at the beginning. The mission was to protect Benghazi in 2011 (not 2012) from Qaddafi. It was likely a no-win strategy either way. I know you think the right thing is always to do nothing. But that would have resulted in what went down in Syria.
Ah, Eric doesn't like reality butting in. Any subject is up for grabs if it makes a case for stupidity. You use any ammo you have wrt Trump and I don't bitch.
Quote:Cue. Refugee crisis.
Cue continue my answer. The refugee crisis is not much about Libya. Some smugglers work there. But the refugees are coming from all over Africa, and mostly from Syria. They came because we did nothing. Assad is bombing hospitals. He is the worst mass murderer since Hitler and Mao. We do nothing, and so refugees come.
Yup. It's also about regime change in Iraq [Shrub] and Syria [Obama].
Quote:The IS won't love her. Of THAT I am sure.
You never know. We'll have to see how Hillery goes with or without Saudi Arabia.
Quote:I'll take Trump over that hag any day.
I don't care if Trump wins over Hillery.
Dump Trump. Maybe I should warn you. You keep saying that, and I might vote for Hillary and not Stein.
Uh did you look at who I already picked? That ballot is locked and loaded.
I mean globalization and cronyism has already taken us far down the reset path.
A cartoon version of the 1980's vs. now.
It's a wasteland out there, bought and paid for the establishment and globalization. Both need to end.
It's that close and wavering in my mind. You never know what might push me over the edge.
Rags, you're still funny after all these years, but you are stretching it a tad on facts and innuendo.
Careful, you could start looking like this guy!
and getting your head handed to you as well -
Trump surrogate goes down in flames on CNN after trying to link Michelle Obama’s speech to Benghazi
Quote:Supporter of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump tried to criticize Michelle Obama’s speech at the Democratic National Convention Monday night by bringing up the attacks on a consulate in Benghazi.
His comments were made as CNN commentator Paul Begala praised Obama for being a unifier.
“Mrs. Obama is a unifying figure and she… has focused on things we all agree on, that we all care about, especially those military families,” Begala said. “So when she stands up and says I trust [Hillary] — this person who is polarizing and partisan and a politician — she says I trust this person with my children, it’s really, really powerful.”
“But you know, Pat Smith trusted her son to Mrs. Clinton’s care in Benghazi and she didn’t take care of him,” Trump surrogate and CNN commentator Jeffery Lord interjected.
Pat Smith is the mother of State Department employee Sean Smith, who was killed in the Benghazi attack.
“That’s a cheapshot,” Begala muttered.
“How many consulates and embassies were attacked when Bush was president?” Begala asked Lord.
“I don’t know the answer,” Lord replied. “Do you?”
“Twenty,” Begala said. “Sixty-six people were killed. How many congressional investigations? Zero. How many frontpage stories? Zero. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me crazy. That was a terrible tragedy. It has been investigated.. she was cleared, even by the partisan House of Representatives.”