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Music during the 1T
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(02-01-2021, 09:31 PM)nguyenivy Wrote: Any hope for us trance & techno fans in the 1T & beyond?

Most people outgrow the pop music of their youth. For my generation (Boomers) when the pop music quite pretending to any high purpose (disco sucks!, and bubble-gum rock directed at teen X), many of us had to go adult. "Elevator music" was the wrong sort of 'adult' music. Also available were R&B, country (the previous two assuming that one was in a certain culture), or something less specific to any ethnicity -- folk, jazz, classical, or for a short time, "new age".

Here's the problem for any pop music: much of it is really awful. There have been exceptions, like Big Band, and it gets revivals. I could make the case that the compositions of Haydn and Mozart had much the same sort of appeal in their time, and the waltz and ragtime crazes.  Is ragtime part of classical music? It is close. Joplin rags have some attractive counterpoint. Good music has a tendency to survive, often appearing in new expressions. Aaron Copland adopted the folk song "Simple Gifts" into his theme-and-variations ballet score Appalachian Spring (1944), which CBS News often used as lead music for news programs. But this folk tune is remarkably similar to that of a work for brass ensemble by Giovanni Gabriel ( Canzon per sonare no. 2) much older than the folk song which dates from 1848.

The Canzona (published in 1615, written no earlier than 1612)





the folk song which is obviously much newer than the Renaissance-era canzona:





and a masterful set of orchestral variations  expressing supreme optimism in America as the last Crisis was winding down (1944) in supreme triumph: 





I would not be surprised if there is a synthesized version of these.  

... but back to the not-so-specific. 3T fads and crazes have little staying power. There is much creativity in a 3T because of more complete freedom from pressures to conform to old standards of behavior and content. Human behavior not in a 3T explain why those standards of behavior and content exist. Nobody says "Burn the fads!"... more likely, it is that during a 4T, fads and crazes that don't have the support of Crisis-era leadership tend to die. Will it be different this time? Maybe. We have a war against the worst enemy that America has ever faced, and we have extermination of that enemy as an objective. COVID-19 has no chance, as did the German or Japanese governments during the last Crisis or the Confederacy had during the previous Crisis to surrender to stop the killing. Donald Trump has not been effective in promoting the sort of regimentation necessary for defeating COVID-19; if anything the people most likely to defy him (or at least act independently of him) have been most effective in fighting the Great Menace. 

The good stuff of course survives. So do virtues that get a society through the Crisis. Ugly compromises necessary for getting through the Crisis (slavery in the American Revolution, plutocracy in the Civil War, and Jim Crow practice in the Second World War) might have to be set aside for solutions in later times.  
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Music during the 1T - by Blazkovitz - 03-29-2020, 05:38 AM
RE: Music during the 1T - by Ghost - 03-29-2020, 11:16 AM
RE: Music during the 1T - by LPDec63 - 06-18-2020, 08:04 AM
RE: Music during the 1T - by nguyenivy - 02-01-2021, 09:31 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by David Horn - 02-02-2021, 03:57 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by pbrower2a - 02-03-2021, 04:02 AM
RE: Music during the 1T - by Mickey123 - 02-03-2021, 08:48 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by pbrower2a - 01-25-2022, 01:06 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by pbrower2a - 02-02-2021, 12:01 AM
RE: Music during the 1T - by Einzige - 02-02-2021, 12:07 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by Warren Dew - 02-03-2021, 11:38 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by galaxy - 02-04-2022, 08:35 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by David Horn - 02-05-2022, 09:11 AM
RE: Music during the 1T - by Eric the Green - 02-05-2022, 04:32 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by pbrower2a - 02-06-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: Music during the 1T - by Anteros - 02-06-2022, 03:36 AM

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