05-07-2021, 02:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2021, 03:00 PM by Eric the Green.)
(05-07-2021, 09:35 AM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: Early 22nd century.....
Eric, do you think that the projected Crisis of 2100 may end around 2110? If so, the subsequent 2T would start around 2128/2130, and probably last to around 2148/2150.
That's possible. Exact dates are hard to predict for the saeculum, but if it follows the planetary cyclic pattern, then we'll know more or less. Just what the generations will be like, we can't say for certain, or completely. People make history, and history makes people in turn. That's the principle.
If our current 4T extends through 2029, as Neil Howe says and the planets seem to indicate, then the 2T outbreak could be delayed to 2047, and that could also delay the onset of the 3T to 2067. But Uranus-Pluto conjunctions and oppositions can't be avoided in what they predict, so the 2T will not be delayed past 2047. As I see it, the same kind of interaction between people and history also applies to the interaction between people and the cycles of our larger being; we change and extend their meanings as we discover them, just as much as they time events and changes within us and society.
We can hope that over the next two centuries, Americans and people of the world will evolve and progress in some positive way; technologically, socially and/or spiritually/artistically. But especially in 3rd and 4th turnings, people can go backwards too in some ways, as we have seen socially in our recent and current ones. If wars, especially great world wars, become obsolete, then that will change the nature of the turnings too.
Since the age of "enlightenment and progress" began in the 18th century, participation in the saeculum was increasingly extended to vastly more people, and that intensified the cyclic "storm" and speeded progress up from about 100 years to about 84. A stronger "eye" appeared in this hurricane. The discovery of the outer invisible planets coincided with the gradual extension of this progress, and especially with discovery in 1781, in the time of Revolution, of Uranus, whose orbital period is 84 years. The other two invisible planets Neptune (discovered 1846) and Pluto (discovered 1930; with its partner Charon discovered in 1978, and its entire Kuiper Belt discovered in circa 1993) have slightly less than 2 times and 3 times that orbital length respectively.
Our second turnings in America have become increasingly less tied to traditional religious institutions. Some say that will be reversed, but I say it will continue. That is called the "new age movement." Awakenings to a large extent take up from where they left off during the previous one, and skip along from 2T to 2T. Their revelations and discoveries have been forgotten, as they have largely been this time, and so need to be recovered again in the next 2T, because we are a largely materialist and/or tradition-bound culture. Pepperland will return, and I hope to hear what the next "Tomorrow Never Knows" track, the ultimate 2T awakening piece, will be.
To listen to Tomorrow Never Knows, released in August 1966, is to hear the Awakening pierce through the morning fog and arouse the people, both to inner discovery of within, and to cultural and social movements among us. It was the alarm bell!