05-24-2021, 03:48 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2021, 02:14 PM by Eric the Green.)
(05-24-2021, 01:01 AM)X Marks the Spot Wrote:Eric Meece Wrote:Well, I certainly think Millennials were well represented in all the big marches against police brutality after the outrageous Floyd murder.
Maybe most of them were just young-looking Xers? Fortysomethings can look young enough to fool you.
Millennials are the most active in all demonstrations today just from the fact they are young and able. There is no doubt that Millennials are more diverse and more liberal, by a wide margin, over previous generations. Of course they came out and protested the Floyd murder, as they did for March for Our Lives for gun control, Climate School Strikes, and the anti-Trump women's marches. All of these are among the largest movements ever. I don't think you can arbitrarily decide that everyone in them was over 40.
Quote:Quote:9-11 has nothing much to do with police;
This is just wrong. On 9/11, police officers, along with firefighters, became heroes when they saved people's lives on that tragic day. Because of this event, Millennials became pro-police; they became very patriotic; and they became very pro-Bush. They rallied around the president and supported his wars. In fact, Millennials turning out to vote was a big reason Bush won re-election in 2004.
In 2016, Millennials grudgingly voted for Hillary in the general election, because she was the more Establishment candidate, but the clear Millennial favorite in the primary was Jeb Bush! Jeb rallied Millennials to turn out and vote like no candidate before or since. Millennials remembered their favorite president from 2001-2009 and turned out to try to help his brother win, but alas, the alt-right, made up of Boomers and Xers, put the Trumpster on the Republican ticket instead.
I don't know where you are coming from. This comment has nothing to do with the facts. Millennials came out in droves to vote against Bush in 2004. Bush got votes from the religious right. Some Millennials did sign up for the military after 9-11, I give you that.
Hillary was not the Establishment candidate; Trump was. Jeb Bush failed miserably in the primary in 2016. Millennials have voted strongly Democratic in every election and put Obama in the White House.
More on Jeb Bush's failure: https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cass...gn-jeb-did
A rising blue tide: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/20...he-nation/
Generation Jones (younger boomers and older Xers) gave Bush the victory in 2004, not Millennials: https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-...0412050257
Quote:Quote:and I don't think millennials particularly support the wars.
Millennials are so patriotic that they supported both the 2001 War on Afghanistan and the 2003 War on Iraq! After 9/11, it would be disrespectful to your country, and to president Bush, not to support those wars. Instead Millennials got with the program and enlisted after 9/11 in numbers not seen since WWII!
Quote:But anti-terrorist measures by the FBI and Homeland Security; most of us support these. The USA has been able to tamp down terrorist attacks since 9-11.
Definitely! But we also need institutions like ICE.
Powered by Millennials, Democrats increased their vote in the Southwest because hispanics opposed Trump's use of ICE and his immigration policy. We don't need ICE to pick up people off the street and deport them. We need the immigration bill passed by the Senate during the Bush administration but knocked down by the right-wing Tea-Party House.
Quote:Quote:No generation wants cops that are racist or who don't follow the law, nor for them to get away with murders as they so often do.
But very few cops are racist or break their own laws. Very few cops who murder get away (with) this murder.
Those who watch this situation, and most blacks, disagree with you.
"Police officers are prosecuted for murder in less than 2 percent of fatal shootings"
https://www.vox.com/21497089/derek-chauv...ves-matter
Quote:Quote:Penalties were too stiff, and the wrong people have been put in prison too often, since the law and order trend began about 3 or 4 decades ago. This plus the drug war has resulted in overcrowded prisons, the worst of any developed country.
What's the alternative? Chaos on the streets?
We don't need tyranny and injustice. We don't need more people in prison than other countries. We can be a free and fair country and still enforce the law.
Quote:Quote:Justice reform is happening, and drug laws are being loosened too (especially regarding marijuana). Millennials support these trends.
Legalizing marijuana is a radical idea. Millennials don't like radicalism.
Legalizing marijuana is a moderate idea that has been overdue for 50 years. Many states have passed some form of this. Millennials frequently like radical liberal policy positions.
The youth are voting overwhelmingly Democratic, but perhaps the circle you inhabit is young white men, who still preferred Trump in 2020 by a narrow margin.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020...ing-trends
