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People not accepting our Millennial theory
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Quote:Millennials are the most active in all demonstrations today just from the fact they are young and able. There is no doubt that Millennials are more diverse and more liberal, by a wide margin, over previous generations. Of course they came out and protested the Floyd murder, as they did for March for Our Lives for gun control, Climate School Strikes, and the anti-Trump women's marches. All of these are among the largest movements ever. I don't think you can arbitrarily decide that everyone in them was over 40.


OK, but given what S&H say about the way generations work, and how good the authors' track record is, maybe there are some Millennials who are protesting for liberal causes but they're outliers for their generation? S&H say every generation contains all sorts of people. There are GI's like William Burroughs, tehre are Silents like John Ashcroft, there are Xers like Reese Witherspoon. So there can be Millennials who are "lefty" types but they can be in the "suppressed" group, acting against what's at the core of their generation.



Quote:I don't know where you are coming from. This comment has nothing to do with the facts. Millennials came out in droves to vote against Bush in 2004. Bush got votes from the religious right. Some Millennials did sign up for the military after 9-11, I give you that.


Colin Powell said "More people want to be all they can be", remember? There was a surge of enlistments not seen since WORLD WAR II after 9/11!


Quote:Hillary was not the Establishment candidate; Trump was. Jeb Bush failed miserably in the primary in 2016. Millennials have voted strongly Democratic in every election and put Obama in the White House.


Maybe Obama won because he spoke of "common purpose"? The whole idea of getting wtih the program.

And yeah, maybe Hillary and Trump were both Establishment in a way. But if Millennials had really gone for antiestablishment, boat-rocking candidates, then given how high Millennial turnout is, Bernie Sanders would be beginning his second term today.


Quote:More on Jeb Bush's failure: https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cass...gn-jeb-did
A rising blue tide: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/20...he-nation/

Generation Jones (younger boomers and older Xers) gave Bush the victory in 2004, not Millennials: https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-...0412050257


OK, I'm not denying that Generation Jones has conservative, even neocon tendencies, but you gotta admit, Jeb sounds like the perfect Millennial choice for president: both conservative AND very Establishment.



Quote:Powered by Millennials, Democrats increased their vote in the Southwest because hispanics opposed Trump's use of ICE and his immigration policy. We don't need ICE to pick up people off the street and deport them. We need the immigration bill passed by the Senate during the Bush administration but knocked down by the right-wing Tea-Party House.

Don't forget that it was Bush himself who created ICE. I don't want my 6-year-old Homelander son or 4-year-old Homelander daughter to be murdered by an illegal immigrant.



Quote:We don't need tyranny and injustice. We don't need more people in prison than other countries. We can be a free and fair country and still enforce the law.

The thing is, we're still a chaotic country. We have chaos in 4T's, it's part of the package. We need all the law and order we can get in a time like this; it's not like we're in the Awakening or the High.


Quote:Legalizing marijuana is a moderate idea that has been overdue for 50 years. Many states have passed some form of this. Millennials frequently like radical liberal policy positions.

Did you read S&H's 2003 article in Axess? They say Millennials want "stability, not radicalism".


Quote:The youth are voting overwhelmingly Democratic, but perhaps the circle you inhabit is young white men, who still preferred Trump in 2020 by a narrow margin.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020...ing-trends


I'm not a young white man, I'm a Gen-Xer born in 1974. I am a middle-aged straight white man.
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RE: People not accepting our Millennial theory - by X Marks the Spot - 05-28-2021, 11:33 PM

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